The cure for cults that want to deny others
their freedom of speech is more freedom of speech
-- Fredric Rice

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Creationist Cults

Creationist cults.

This web site looks at older creationist cult propaganda which was released by various creationist cults over the past 20 years. This is to be nowhere near an exhaustive effort since creationist cults expend a considerable amount of time and effort to try to explain-away science and try to find some justification for their religious notions, and other debunkings -- such as *http://www.talkorigins.org/ -- already debunk the ignorant claptrap that creationist cults come out with, debunking the propaganda in loving, scientific detail.

The Institute for Creation Research (ICR) is one such cult which by my investigations does little -- if any -- scientific research, publishes no scientific peer-reviewed materials in any serious science journal, and appears to be staffed by self-proclaimed 'professors' and 'doctors' which appear to lack any discernable scientific credentials in the many fields within which they pontificate.

Freakishly, members of the ICR cult are reportedly required to sign a bizarre statement of religious belief in the contemporary versions of the classical Christanic mythologies, in direct denial to what their own senses and reason tell them -- to hell with science. Their beliefs would be perfectly acceptable if they kept them to themselves however this cult threatens to try to get their occultism taught as scientific fact in the public schools and in colleges around the United States. For that audacity they must be opposed with reason and science.

Other Creationist cults -- such as "PROBE" and the "Missouri Association for Creation, Inc." are just as freakish and bizarre however they seem to be more willing to accept evidence for some things which debunk a belief (such as the rather amusing notion that there are "man tracks" at Paluxy) so long as it doesn't detract from their overall occult beliefs.

"Propaganda refers to a pattern of selective presentation or marshaling of evidence for a preestablished point of view; ignoring or minimizing disconfirming data; and 'accentuating the positive and eliminating the negative' in the discussion and argument from the data gathered. Propagana or biased presentation may be 'good salesmanship' and acceptable in commercial affairs and certain legal realms, but it is considered inappropriate in science." -- Donald D. Jensen

"Creationism: The position that the account[s] of the creation of the universe given at the beginning of the [Christian] Bible is literally true." -- The American Heritage Dictionary

"Cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. b. The followers of such a religion or sect. 2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual. 3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual. 4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease. 5.a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. b. The object of such devotion. 6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest." -- The American Heritage Dictionary

Also, I'm routinely accused of making up or otherwise forging creationist texts in an attempt to make "real" creationist cults look like fools. I assure you that I do no such thing. Creationist cults come up with enough freakishly bizarre -- and amusing -- propaganda on their own without having to make up such profoundly stupid crap.

When I come across an old creationist piece of propaganda, I usually attempt to contact the people who wrote it to see if they're still in the business. In some cases telephone numbers and addresses have changed or they've acquired web sites. In those cases I've added notes to the texts indicating the new information but other than that I don't attempt to alter creationist texts other than to reduce or otherwise dismiss text to either conform to "Fair Use" dictates of copyright or simply because the effort to debunk an already debunked notion wasn't worth the effort and it's done elsewhere on the Internet (such as the *Internert Infidels.)

I noticed many things about creationist cults while going through these old texts. One of the things that I noticed was that creationist cults seem to feel the need to "explain" what parts of the classical Christanic mythologies mean, as if people can't open up the mythologies and read them for themselves. The "explanation" always gets offered in some way to support the creationist occultism which is often debunked simply by checking to see what the mythologies actually say.

Perhaps creationists feel that their followers aren't smart enough to open up a Christian bible and read it for themselves without the cult having to explain what it is they're reading. The audacity exhibited by these cults is profoundly interesting, in my opinion, and often amusing and deserves a good review if only to ascertain just how evil these cults are in what they try to do.


* thecult.htm -- What is this bizarre creationist cult? Where did they go wrong?
* myworkup.htm -- E-mail exchange: Creationist cult claims criticism some how belongs to them
* cobb2.htm -- ACLU Sues Over Evolution Disclaimers in Textbooks
* cobb3.htm -- Creationist Cultists Clobber Cobb County
* drkags1.htm -- La. Schools Reject Evolution Disclaimer
* ohioau1.htm -- Americans United for Separation of Church and State
* ohionut7.htm -- OKs Creation in Science Class
* aingnot.htm -- Insane creationist cultists in Ohio
* ohio1.htm -- Insane cultists in Ohio still advocating superstitious ignorance
* PCSFJUL.htm -- Newsletter Pittsburgh Creationist Society
* coscreas.htm -- An Afternoon With the $cientologists
* crenut.htm -- Fredric Rice corrects another unfortunate Creationist
* fnkooks1.htm -- Evolution flap enters the legal realm
* gergicr.htm -- Georgia School District Votes to Allow Different Views Taught on Origin of Life
* morastud.htm -- Creationists' evolving argument
* morm112.htm -- Mormon student may be excommunicated
* cobbnuts.htm -- Cobb mulls teaching evolution alternatives
* rejected.htm -- La. Schools Reject Evolution Disclaimer
* nodebate.htm -- No debate within the scientific community over whether evolution occurs
* ICR-CULT.HTM -- Extensive, detailed look at the ICR cult! Main HS-ICR-CULT index!
* ngpost2.htm -- Cultist thinks children misbehave because of teaching science
* crenut2.htm -- A Creationist e-mails stupid claims, gets soundly debunked
* crenut3.htm -- Creationist comes back for more, gets soundly debunked again
* crenut4.htm -- Creationist asks for -- and receives! -- another massive debunking
* cobbnuts.htm -- More Creationist occultism at Cobb County
* cremoron.htm -- Creationists: They're Not Really Inbred Morons
* ftimeln.htm -- Amusing 'timeline' Creationist cultists came up with
* hdeny1.htm -- Holocaust denier Irving spoke in Cleveland suburb
* insane1.htm -- Cultists set up a museum of ignorance and superstition
* muskets.htm -- Truth is casualty in this war
* cobb1.htm -- OUR OPINIONS: No faith-based science in schools
* KANSAS.HTM -- Unsalted Creationist nutters in Kansas -- numerous newspaper archives
* ICR-LET.HTM -- Letters to and from HolySmoke about the ICR cult
* nodebate.htm -- If creationism was fatal, I'd be all for it
* hitler.htm -- Denying Adolf Hitler's Christianity and the creationist mindset
* holoden.htm -- Holocaust Denial / Revisionism and Creationist Cultism


* DOP92-1A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: This text contains a look at (and solidly debunks) one of the ICR cult's freakishly bizarre 'Days Of Praise' texts.
* IMP-107A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The ICR cult's bizarre claim that 'Evolution is religions, not science' gets soundly debunked.
* IMP-220A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Some time ago The Skeptic Tank debunked this bizarre cult claim originally titled 'Columbus and His Creator.' What followes is a detailed debunking of the idiot cult nonsense.
* IMP-229A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Here we find the ICR cult lamenting about research which finds that humanity had its birth in Africa. He offer some commentary on the unfounded complaints.
* IMP-230A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The ICR cult created a 'museum.' I'm not kidding, they really did. Or at least they tried to.
* IMP-231A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The imbecilic search for mystical, magical boats.
* IMP-232A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: 'The new age and global education.' This looks like a conspiracy nut rant -- so it fits right in with the rest of the ICR crap.
* IMP-233A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Here we have the ICR cult explaining their lack of understanding about cosmology which they some how think has something to do with evolution.
* IMP-234A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: In this bizarre propaganda piece we find out that evolution can some how be 'pantheistic.' This proves once again that the ICR cult has no idea what evolution is and what it is not.
* IMP-235A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: 'Confessions of faith.' Well, that at least sounds as if cultists know they exhibit traits which need to be forgiven.
* IMP-236A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: What good is the ability to think if one discards it entirely in favor of trying desperately to hold on to a warm and fuzzy occult superstition?
* IMP-237A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: It's so badly formatted that I'll have to dig to see where we start getting to the Satanic evolution conspiracy.
* IMP-238A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The notion that one can 'study' either creationism or 'flood geology' is about as silly a notion as suggestion that one can study vampires.
* IMP-239A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Everything in the crap that creationist cults put out seems to revolve around the bizarre and unfounded notion that there was at one time a world-wide global flood.
* IMP-240A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Horribly, creationist cults actually go out in the world and try to get other ignorant people to buy in to their deliberate and willful ignorance.
* IMP-241A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Oh sweet Jesus, no, please no. Oh god I don't know if I'l be able to take this one.
* IMP-242A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: At times a new bizarrely shaped brick is added to the cult's crumbeling foundation of ignorance to try to shore up a sagging and outdated belief system and this is one of them.
* IMP-244A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: One of the hobby horses that creationist cults like to get on and ride is the gaps in the extant fossil record.
* IMP-245A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: One of the neat things about science has been the advancements made which both helps and hinders humanity considerably.
* IMP-246A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Will the ICR cult compare the Christian mythologies against previous religions that also have gods turning into mortals, dieing 'for sins of humanity' only to be reanimated as gods again?
* IMP-247A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: If my irony meter hadn't of been damaged by the previous nut rants about how China could some how benefit from Christianity, the meter would _surely_ be destroyed by this crack.
* IMP-248A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Oh good grief, this one's amazing. As if China didn't have enough problems with over population. Here we have the ICR cult's opinion as to 'Would China benefit from Christianity?'
* IMP-249A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The ICR cult likes to try to pretend that the fact of evolution some how has something to say about racism and the superiority or inferiority of species.
* IMP-250A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Here we have a propaganda piece by 'Doctor' Gish, one of the more widely notorious individuals at the ICR cult, offering his opinions on 'When Is A Whale A Whale?'
* IMP-251A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Yes, another problem facing creationists is the fact of star formation and the millions of years needed for gravitation to cause dust to precipitate out of nebula to form stars, planets, and solar systems.
* IMP-252A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Another fatal problem creationists have to some how explain-away are tree rings.
* IMP-253A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: I have a wonder if the creationist is going to make an appeal to the readers that the Earth really _is_ the center of the universe, and that the Sun orbits around the Earth.
* IMP-254A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: One of the endless major problems that creationists must face on a daily basis is the overwhelming evidence that the Earth is in fact exactly what it appears to be
* IMP-255A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: The cult actually was handing out degrees to its followers as if they were candy until the State of California had to step in and put an immediate stop to the stupidity.
* IMP-256A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: Speaking of gravitational theories, here we have an ICR cult propaganda piece that presumes to instruct its followers as to what gravity is.
* IMP-257A.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: It seems that atheism has become the official stance of America's school system.
* SPECIAL.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: And in so doing the framers of the Constitution and the founders of the United States decided to deliberately vote _against_ including any gods or goddesses in the Constitution
* TENETS.htm -- Debunking occult superstition series, criticism of stupidity: In this text we find the bizarre cult explaining what their amusing euphemistically titled 'Tenets of Scientific Creationism' are.
* 5CRISES.htm -- The Five Crises of Evolutionary Theory by Ray Bohlin. Falsely claims there are '5 weakness of evolution theory.'
* AS0927.htm -- Former evolutionist and biology professor discusses 'evidences' of a young earth by Roger Oakland.
* HUFOSS.htm -- Dr. Ray Bohlin, of Probe, critiques recent articles of findings of human fossils, which evolutionists are attempting to use as evidence for human evolution
* LECTAPE1.htm -- List of lecture tapes available from M.A.C.
* MACPURP.htm -- Statement of purpose of the Missouri Assoc. for Creation.
* MISTAKES.htm -- Charles Darwin's three mistakes
* MITOCLCK.htm -- Rate variation and the molecular clock
* MODINOS.htm -- Dinosaurs in Missouri? by Dr. Menton
* MOORREVW.htm -- Review of Ernie McMullin's 'Creation and Evolution'
* MYTH#1.htm -- Do human embryos really have 'gill slits'? (yes)
* MYTH#2.htm -- Do embryos 'recapitulate' their evolution? (yes and no)
* MYTH#3.htm -- Are vestigal organs (appendix) evolutionary leftovers? (yes)
* MYTH#4.htm -- Is the peppered moth an example of evol? (yes and no)
* MYTH#5.htm -- Are mutations responsible for evolution? (yes and no)
* MYTH#6.htm -- Does the fossil record give evidence for evolution? (Yes)
* MYTH#7.htm -- Is God acceptable as a 'helper' for evol.?
* MYTH#8.htm -- Given enough time, will monkeys type the sonnets of Shakespeare?
* ORILIFE1.htm -- The Origin of Life by Dr. David N. Menton No. 2 in a series. August 1993
* ORINDEX.htm -- Index of material in SOR's Origin Research
* PB-PB-I.htm -- Essay on challenge of radiometric dating
* PCSFJUN.htm -- Newsletter Pittsburgh Creationist Society
* PCSFMAY.htm -- Newsletter Pittsburgh Creationist Society
* PCSFSEPT.htm -- Newsletter Pittsburgh Creationist Society
* ANKERB.htm -- My next concern came when our conference phone calls and group mailings did not include Duane Gish.
* CREVCON1.htm -- Creationist propaganda: The Creation-Evolution Controversy[sic] by Dr. David N. Menton, Ph.D.
* SOCDARWN.htm -- Darwinism and it's deadly effects on our society.
* THRYFCT1.htm -- Is Evolution a Theory, a Fact, or a Law? Or -- None of the Above? by Dr. David N. Menton. No. 4 in a series. October 1993
* VIDEOLIB.htm -- Creation videos available from the Missouri Association for Creation's Life Origins Library.
* WHATISLF.htm -- Announcement of 'What Is Life' conference at Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland from September 20th-22nd, 1993. Speakers: Jared Diamond, Manfred Eigen, Stephen Jay Gould, Leslie Orgel...
* CREAJRNL.htm -- [not in list some how]
* carbon.htm -- Examines radiocarbon dating from a creationist viewpoint.


* accept.htm -- Letters from creationist cults granting permission to reproduce
* geology.htm -- Have you ever heard of the Paluxy River Beds?
* geni.htm -- ...the footprints of dinosaurs AND men?
* bgenesis.htm -- Older FidoNet discussions
* radcarbn.htm -- Lunar/solar calendar simulator
* appguid.pdf --
* iers.pdf -- TRACS 'accredits' Diploma Mill -- information in PDF format
* info.pdf -- TRACS 'accredits' Diploma Mill -- information in PDF format
* instpri.pdf -- TRACS 'accredits' Diploma Mill -- information in PDF format
* standard.pdf -- TRACS 'accredits' Diploma Mill -- information in PDF format
* antikan.htm -- The insane shouldn't be allowed to hold political office
* Insane cultists: Puyallup man leading long quest for Noah's Ark
* notbrit.htm -- Creationists never get any brighter, do they?
* sexfun1.htm -- The institute for advanced study in human sexuality
* icrcult.zip -- Click here to download a ZIP file containing this entire web site


"You can lie about ICR all you want." -- Jason Daniel Henderson

"Thank you for your permission however there's never any need to.
Creationist propaganda is already self-debunking." -- Fredric L. Rice

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