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From: "Niles" <>
To: "Jason Daniel Henderson" <>
Subject: Re: ICR cult copyrighted materials?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:08:24 -0500

Hello Jason,

I just got your telephone message today, and I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.

I understand that the content in question may not be flattering to you and your organization. I can understand why you would want the information removed, but there are circumstances where material like this can be reproduced legally (i.e. criticism/research). Personally I am not qualified to make these kinds of decisions, and I must stress that I am in no position to censor my customers. The Skeptictank can and probably would simply find another ISP to host their website if I were to attempt to censor them, although I don't feel as though you have directly asked me to do such a thing.

Here's what I read on Fair use, and I think you should take a quick look at it.

Again, I'm not qualified to determine if the content in question indeed violates copyright law, and I would be steping outside my boundaries to impose any restriction on Fredrick Rice, or the Skeptictank. Jason, I hope you and Fredrick can work this issue out. Please don't hesitate to contact me again if the situation changes, or you have any questions.

Any text written by the creationist cult which may be quoted within this criticial examination of the creationist cult is provided according to U. S. Code Title 17 "Fair Use" dictates which may be reviewed at

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