From:    Sir Hans
To:      All                                    Msg #49, Oct-06-93 01:45AM
Subject: Bobby quotes!!!!!

Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
From: dok@fwi.uva.nl (Sir Hans)
Message-ID: <1993Oct6.094536.3177@fwi.uva.nl>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism

                       MOZUMDER'S WORLD

Hello everyone, here's the list you've all been waiting for.  The
collected wisdom (HA!) of Bobby Mozumder in quotations.  I've decided
not to put [sic] after each typo, since that would make this
compendium of witticisms and aforisms by everybody's hero Bobby about
thrice as large.  All truly said by the Bobmeister himself.  Honest.
Additions welcomed.

Oh, if there's enough interest, how about a BobFAQ?  Like:

Q: Where does Bobby go on holiday?

A: Thailand.


Welcome to Fantasy Islam. Here it comes:

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    ...  HA!
                - Bobby Mozumder

    ... Islam is the fastest growing religion, becuase everybody loves it
and thinks its perfect.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    >Islam is truly one of the great evils in this world.
    But christians and muslims say that atheists are more evil.  There are
more of us than you, so tough.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    All freethinkers are closed-minded.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Also, morality is a good evidence for god, because a god provides an
absolute measure of morality for human beings, and thus the problems of
ethical realativism are solved.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    An atheist has no reason to believe in God because to the atheist,
reality does not include one.  Why?  Because there is no proof.  But to the
theist, God is just as real as anything else.  And so how do atheist
justify atheism if there is no proof of there not being a god?  The
atheists is trying to disprove it to the theist, he is trying to prove the
positive, so how can he without proof?  A theist considers God as real
until proven false, while an atheist considers god as unreal until proven
real.  And for an atheist to say that there is no reason to believe is like
saying that there is no reason to believe in anything we don't see, such as
something behind a wall, etc...  It seems that atheists mix idealism and
materialism to their own pleasure, so what is the unifying theory to this
mind-body problem of atheists?
                - Bobby Mozumder

    And on your second point, it doesn't take a perfect person to determine
the perfection of something else, because the system to determine
perfection is perfect.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    At least I have an answer.  Where's yours?  None.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    At least our world [the Islamic] lives in peace with each other.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Atheism is your favorite drug.  It messes with your mind.  You cannot
THINK.  That is why you are an atheist.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Atheists have imaginations almosts as unreal as their reality.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Because atheists do it with those that don't even reach puberty.
Something muslims don't do because we have morals, but atheists do it all
the time because their morals have no value.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    But atheists can't even agree on morals.  Lots of atheist lie on this
network, even, so who can respect them from this representation?
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Doesn't it tell you that something is wrong with your culture when 12
year olds are too immature to marry?  That's saddening.  It just causes too
many problems.  The Islamic solution is needed in America. Everybody will
be much happier.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    For example, it is easy to spot a mistake if there was one in the
Quran, like in the Bible.  But to make a conclusion such as "Everything in
the Universe experiences gravity" from a statement such as "The heavenly
bodies travel in a rounded path" require far out skill.  But of course it
is logically true, and therefore only a perfect thing could have made the
original statement.  Proof of God in Islam.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Go to class and learn a few things first.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Hiumans make mistakes and so morality could be incorrect.  An arbitrary
source for morality can be agreed upon between human beings, since there is
an arbitrator (?) to make peace between human beings, thus being more
peacful and natural.  Ethical realativism causes wars, suffering, etc..
because there is no rule.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I know a girl from my high school that got married in 8th grade.  A
typical white american christian.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I mean, where did you even get the idea that Iran represents Islam?
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I said that to a theist, God is real, and therefore, God's disproof
becomes the positive, and therefore, it is up to the atheist to disprove
god in order for a theist to logically become an atheist.  So, what is your
justification of there no being a god to me?  If you say there is no
evidence, I will just say there is.  If you say you never saw god, I will
say I never saw my back.  Get it?  So now what?
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I see nothing wrong with marraige at early ages. [~12 years and up.]
... Actually, [in Islam] sex with children is explicitly forbidden in
addition to having marraiges with initial intent to divorce, for it isn't a
marraige .
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I think your morality is wrong, because you would not defend yourself
when physically attacked or would not communicate your ideas, since you
find a ji'had to be wrong.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    I'm truly sorry atheists happened.  They make life miserable for good
people.  Just look at all the mean messages you got for something you
didn't do.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Islam defines a god.
    .
    That god is logical (by verification).
    .
    Therefore, the Islamic god is logical.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Logical fallacies are not just simple contradictions, but go very deep
into reality, even.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Look at Bosnia- Muslims are fighting with their hands tied behind their
back, yet they still persist.  The character of the muslim is too great.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Look throughout time- atheistic cultures have their morals vary
greatly, while theistic morals vary very little (christianity) or none at
all (Islam).
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Meanwhile, atheistic cultures such as China and Thailand continue their
human rights violations.  You might not think of them as good atheists, but
then again, they won't consider you good atheists.  That's the problem with
atheism for ya- child prostitution.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Peace,
    .
    Bobby Mozumder
                - Bobby Mozumder

    Religous people, even christians, would agree that there is no diffence
between a 12 year old and a 40 year old, save experience.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    The answer to the question is that the supernatural doesn't have to
contain time or a creator, since it is the supernatural and natural laws
such as everything has a creator doesn't have to apply to the supernatural.
Question answered.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    The only thing rational that can explain the existence of the universe
is that it was created through Allah.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    This is pretty much the no evidence problem of god with atheist.  It
can be easily countered by saying Muslims have evidence of god, namely the
existence of the universe and morality.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    To an atheist, the universe existed forever, including previous
universe, or whatever is current. This just dodges the question of where
did the universe come from.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    You are right.  It is a bad translation in the second verse.  For
example, everyone has a protector, such as a person's parent, etc..  By
saying that an Idolator has no protector would go against everything.  It
is quite clear that the meaning of this verse is lost.  I myself cannot
think of a word that can describe the guardianship of Allah in english, you
know what I mean?  Who translated that Quran?  Finding contradictions in a
translation is actually used to refine that translation.  I know of no
perfect translation.   It is up to muslims to learn arabic to become
perfect in their faith.  That is why all prayers are done in arabic, even
if the people do not understand the meanings of it.  Arabic is pretty much
the language standard for muslims.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    You contradict yourself.  First, you say that Islam is irrational in it
having a great flood, yet state that a Moslem can be a decent human being.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    You contradict yourself.  If logic was imperfect, then it would be
illogical.
                - Bobby Mozumder

    You shouldn't post about subjects you know nothing about.  You are an
ethical relativists because you do not have any natural law to follow
because you are an atheist.  Some atheists think rape is wrong, some think
it is right.  Atheists send children to prostitution.
                - Bobby Mozumder