From: XXX                                              10 Sep 94  14:41
To  : XXX
Subj: CREATION SCIENCE

 >No. What is scary is that evolutionism is so ensconced in the halls of 
 >academia that anyone who should have the temerity to question this 
 >balderdash is censured/blacklisted.
 
You've obviously debated many evolutionists and have thus far not been swayed 
by their approach.  Here are but a few questions you must answer to "prove" 
the validity of creationism - or even begin to put it in a scientific context: 
 
 1) First, you must PROVE that God exists - using sources other than the 
    Bible (a book written by ordinary people with grandiose ideas).  I'm
    talking about sources that would stand up in a court of law in any
    civilized country.  The typical tactic of using the Bible to "prove"
    the veracity of the Bible is an obvious logical fallacy.  Just because
    a document has been around for centuries and appears old and wise does
    NOT make it automatically valid.  Plenty of fiction was being written
    in Biblical times, yet no one swears that it's the gospel truth just
    because it's old and the authors cannot really be traced.  You need to 
    prove that the Bible is entirely a book of FACTS (something I doubt the 
    original authors ever intended it to be).
 
 2) *After* you've proven that God exists, you must prove that the Christian
    God is the ONLY god.  In other words, you have to tell the Muslims,
    Buddhists and religious folks of all persuasions that their gods and
    their creation stories are LIES - and that the Christian creation story
    is the only one that makes sense.  Just because *you* were raised in the
    Christian faith is not adequate proof.
 
 3) *After* you've successfully done the above (not just in your own mind),
    you must describe the exact mechanism by which something was created out
    of nothing in a matter of seven days, and you must explain (in scientific
    detail) why there is NO evidence of this sort of magic nowadays.  Proving
    any of the above requires that you prove ALL of the above.  You can't just
    say "the Bible says so" and skip right along.   
 
 >What is scary is that any thinking person could actually believe Cindy 
 >Crawford is the result of mutation plus selection. Which I might add is 
 >totally inadequate to produce any of the leaps or stages so desperately 
 >sought by the evolutionists...
 
That's like saying the existence of the Empire State building or the Great 
Pyramids is proof of God.  *Anything* is proof of God's existence to someone
who was raised in a fundamentalist household!  Nature (and human effort) can 
produce amazing things given enough time (although I think there are far 
better looking women out there than Ms. Crawford!)  Of course, if you believe 
the Earth is only a few thousand years old, you have a false concept of 
evolutionary time-scales and cannot appreciate the millions of years required
to create mutations and new species.
 
 >I wonder how many professors are convinced that evolutionism is a fraud, 
 >but are afraid to speak out for fear of their jobs?
 
If these professors exist, I doubt they're in the biological sciences.  Most 
of the "scientists" who scoff at evolution are physicists, etc., and dubious 
ones at that.  If you or anyone you know has relied on high-tech modern 
medicines, please thank microbiologists and others who made their discoveries 
by studying DNA and evolution (not a 2000 year old book that was written when 
we hadn't the slightest concept of such things).  Many creationists are 
currently being *kept alive* by a branch of science they scoff at.  I call 
that hypocrisy.  What do you make of it?
 
You don't have the option of picking and choosing which branch of science is
bogus, based on personal religious faith.  The world is full of different
religions, yet scientists around the world are in basic agreement on all
branches of science, including evolution.  That should tell you that science
has a common thread, while religion is based purely on personal opinions and
the way people are raised.