By: Fredric Rice
To: Captain Fuck
Re: Hate the fag!  Hate the fag!

dp> death; their bloodguilt rests upon them.

FR> This was Rabbinic Law.  Greeks and Romans were not
FR> subject under that law, only Jews.  Additionally, the
FR> Greeks used to consider the taking of young male lovers
FR> to be perfectly acceptable and nothing unusual.

cf> Can you provide a reference for that statement, outside
cf> of Roman literature intended as sarcasm?

Which statement, specifically?  That homosexuality was perfectly acceptable to
the Greeks or that the Rabbinic Law only pertained to Jews?

I'll answer both as the sources are the same.  The Hellenic practice of erotic
involvement with young men dates back quite a ways yet in 1958 Dr. Morton
Smith, Emeritus Professor of Ancient History at Columbia University found a
letter at Mar Saba which was from a founder of the Christian religion named
Clement of Alexandria.  The founder comments about a version of Mark which
contains passages that do not appear in the versions of the bible we see today.

Mark 10:46, for example, is missing the reason for a visit to Jericho which the
later rewrites called Matthew 20:29 and Luke 18:35 elected to fix simply by
deleting any mention of the trip.

The section which was removed covered Jesus's stay in Jericho.

    "And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved
    and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus
    did not recieve them."

    -- "The Secret Gospel" (New York Harper & Row, 1973)
    written by Morton Smith.

    -- Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark
    (Camvbridge, Mass. Havard University Press, 1973.)

FR> Jesus took a young male lover, in fact, and wrestled
FR> naked.  When Rabbis came to arrest Jesus, his lover was
FR> wearing only a loin cloth which was torn off as he made
FR> his escape.

cf> So Jesus must have been a Sumo wrestler, eh?

No, to answer your question.    He wrestled in the Greek tradition,
fully unclothed with the swinging dick tied back with a leather thong.

cf> I wonder what Hulk Hogan would think of your idea that
cf> wrestling and sex are one and the same. In fact, I would get a
cf> kick out of being there when you asked him.

That's just it.  It was highly erotic to the minds of the sick yet merely a
sport for the rest of the people.    (Yes, I would have enjoyed
watching women wrestle naked as well, provided I got to be pinned to the mat a
few times, too.)

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