The cure for cults that want to deny others their freedom of speech is more freedom of speech -- Fredric Rice

Ah, this ICR cult propaganda piece starts out wonderfully amusing. We'll take a detailed look at the nutter's bizarre notions:

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It seems that atheism has become the official stance of America's school system.

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And in fact the Constitution of the United States dictates that the public schools be neutral. And in fact everyone is _born_ being an atheist and it takes years of cult indoctrination before one starts actually believing in deity constructs.

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One way in which many schools and teachers are attempting to indoctrinate students is by the use of new terms to hide the actual intent of the policy maker. For example, the current euphemism for an atheist is a _nontheist_ or _naturalist_.

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Ah, see? It's a sinister conspiracy. Some where in this nut's mind there's the notion that there are schools out there that are "indoctrinating" children to not believe in the non-existant. I had thought that that was the whole swatting _point_ for schools!

Presumably this nut has no problem with schools teaching kids that vampires, werewolves, pixies and fairies don't exist if the kid is stupid enough to believe in them and his parents are stupid enough to not instill in their children how to easily discern fact from fiction.

Thus we see what the agenda of the ICR cult is -- as if there was any question. What's also interesting is this admission later on:

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Knowing that their functional atheism could hinder them from obtaining grants or public support, scientists often skip around these conclusions in their writing and teaching. Some, though, are open and honestly reveal their atheism.

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Here the nut is admitting that atheists -- not Christians -- are treated unfairly in academia. I guess the cult's editor was sick the day this was released.

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Scientists generally not only support Provine's one-sided teaching but are determined not to allow the other side in the classroom.

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Yeah, we should allow every imbecil with a pile of crackpot notions like the ICR cult come in to the classrooms and present their nutty, unfounded notions so that all "sides" can be presented -- no matter how obviously false.

Here's a good complaint:

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Further, science orthodoxy teaches that human existence has no God-given purpose, but is a chance event, a blip on the radar screen in the infinity of time. No God had any part in the creation.

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That's strange. The nut didn't offer any references for this notion. In fact science doesn't even address gods and goddesses -- or anything else that's untestable. Science starts with an observation, progressing to theory to explain the observation, progressing to experimentation to test the theories.

Creationists start out worshipping their paper idol and then go in search of evidence to justify their beliefs. That's not the way science is done. Science has nothing to do with things that are untestable.

I guess this nut doesn't know what science is and what science is not. But then if he or she did, he or she wouldn't be a creationist.

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It is obvious that an attempt to censor the teaching of "the other side of atheism" in the college classroom is nothing more than a blatant attempt to insure that only one side of the controversy is presented.

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Here we find that the ICR cult wants to pretend that evolution has something to do with atheism. In fact most theists on Earth do in fact accept the observed phenomena of evolution. Evolution is simple biology; so simple even creationists who routinely exhibit marked mental difficulties should be able to understand it. Since simple biology has nothing to say about gods one way or another, one's left observing that the nut's notion is disjointed.

It wold be interesting to determine how the ICR cult makes a determination as to how many "sides" the cult thinks should be presented in college classrooms. Presumably we should allow this bizzare cult to bring astrologers to astronomy class, alchemists to chemistry class, phrenologists and tarot card readers to human medicine class.

Also, there's no "controversy." Scientists speaking within their own venue don't debate the fact that evolution happens. What they debate is how evolution happens. Religious occultism such as Creationist crap doesn't factor into controversy since science doesn't concern itself with the untestable. Creationist cults like to pretend that there's some big "controversy among scientists and creationists" wherein creationist cult followers argue that the observed facts of evolution doesn't happen some how. In fact that's another creationist lie; no scientist in the venue would pretend to presume that evolution doesn't happen.

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If naturalistic evolution is true...

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Demonstrably so.

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... why do its true believers have to use political or bullying tactics to quiet creationists (as this author knows from personal experience)?

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What? The ICR nut won't allow it? How dare he! How dare he use political bullying tactics to quiet science in the church?!

Equal time! Scientists have the right to present _their_ side of the story in all the Christian churches of the land! I mean if the ICR cult wants to pretend their have the right some how to come in to schools and present their religious occultism, if the cult wants to pretend that it's only fair, they're going to have to allow scientists to teach science in the churches.

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Another more important reason may be their intolerance toward creationists.

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Actually I think that most people just smile knowingly, exhibit a bit of pity at the poor delusional fools, and then dismiss them as harmless cult followers.

What I've observed is that everyone ignores the creationist cult until the cult tries to sneak in to a classroom to sell their bizarre occultism on campus. Then Christians, Jews, atheists, and the whole spectrum of religious and non-religious citizens of the area band together to throw the creationist nutters out.

There was a wonderful example in Southern California documented on The Skeptic Tank where the townspeople came damn near close to either lynching the cult after they quietly snuck in and took over a school board, else tarring and feathering the bastards and riding them off the campus on the football team's goalposts.

Nothing brings the spectrum of theists and atheists together in a community quite like banding together to throw creationist nutters out of town. Constitutionally nuts aren't allowed to teach their occultism in the public schools in the first place yet it's almost always been the townspeople who throw the bums out first.

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Those who criticize creationists rarely define the term. A creationist is one who believes that God created or directed the creation of the heavens and the earth and all that is in them...

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And thus it's religion and doesn't belong in the classroom. But the nutter gets even worse in his conspiracy rant. Often I've read the appeal to followers that the American way of life has been utterly destroyed and everyone must rise up and fight the Satanic conspiracy which has destroyed the America they once knew. Here is just that:

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An unbiased viewpoint forces the conclusion that America has now adopted a state religion, supported by billions of tax dollars and enforced by the power of law. That state religion is atheism.

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Does that mean I qualify for tax exemption status? Yes, America has been taken over by "godless atheism" (an amusing phrase I picked up from an ICR nut in a previous text) and it's all so unfair.

Here we are, supposed to be a country that was founded by Christians (it wasn't) for Christians (it wasn't) and up until now has been a Christian nation (it never was.) And now -- thanks to evolution, I suspect, and possibly mathematics -- America has been taken over and the "religion" of not having a religion has been installed as the country's official religion.

The ICR cult may be of the opinion that bald is, in fact, a hair color. Since atheists lack gods, the ICR cult gives them a religion to make up for the lack. Why thank you. You're too kind. Not to mention absolutely insane. The nut doesn't mention the fact that _all_ Westernized countries on Earth these days which maintain public schools don't even contemplate the gods and goddesses humanity has created -- just as the American public school system doesn't care about them.

What's also interesting is that the cult laments public schools as being without gods (but then we all are) when they're perfectly free to go off and start their own cult schools and they're perfectly free to stuff them absolutely full of gods if that is their wish.

Obviously the cult's lament is one of _money_ and the desire to acquire tax money to help spread their bizarre notions. Indeed, above we find the ICR cult complaining greedily with the claim that billions of tax dollars are some how being used to "support" the "religion" of atheism. The supposition being that it's only fair to financially support cults. Specifically the ICR cult and creationism occultism in general.

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How effective has been what now amounts to a relentless campaign to banish any support of the theistic worldview in our public schools and colleges?

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Willful ignorance and superstition will be with humanity always no matter how much education we throw at people so the answer to that question is, sadly, not effective at all. But then that's not the goal of public schools and college. Education is, not religion.

Why is this unsalted nut complaining? He or she has plenty of churches out there within which they may present their freakishly bizarre occult superstitions. Is this nut complaining because he or she as been utterly ineffective in getting people to stop accepting the demonstrable fact of evolution?

The answer is an obvious "Yes." Obviously if creationists had success getting their own children to believe in creationism and had success getting their own children denying science they would not feel the need to try to deny other people's children the right to learn science.

Creationism is a dismal failure in the church so the cult takes it on the road and tries to ramrod it down the throats of people who know what science is and know that creationism is occult superstition.

Creationists look at the advances of science -- many of which came about due to the understanding of evolution, DNA, and forced speciation technologies -- and they harbor hatred for the progress that humanity has made. Their hatred is further fueled by the utter lack of progress religion has made in making the world a better place to live. And it's their own fault: worshipping paper idols they have no choice but to try to twist reality to conform to their outdated and debunked notions.

Let's page down considerably to the next nut rant:

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When one compares the pessimistic, nihilistic worldview that evolution teaches -- that life has no purpose or reason -- with the Judeo-Christian worldview that men and women are a special creation of a loving, caring God..

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Presumably gravitational theory is also pssimistic, nihilistic and worldly. Here you have an admission by the ICR cult that their complaint isn't about the fact of evolution being unscientific but a complaint that's predicated in their mistaken belief that the fact of evolution some how constitutes a philosophy. As if gravitation theories designed to explain gravity some how constituted a philosophical ideology.

On one hand we have gods, goddesses, pixies, fairies, unicorns, and who knows how many invisible fuzzy warm little forest creatures to play pretend with. On the other hand we have the stark truth of science which cares neither that you believe in it or disbelieve in it since a demonstrated fact imbues no opinion.

On the gripping hand we have _reality_ of which science describes in loving detail and which _should_ be wonder enough for everybody to behold without having to concoct warm fuzzy constructs to play with.

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