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ATHEISTS: we *dare* you... we *double-dog-dare* you...
[22:19] Zeek (zeek@nscs21p18.remote.umass.edu) joined
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[22:19] hi Zeek
[22:19] You dare me?
[22:20] sure do
[22:20] lol
[22:20] what is your paradigm, zeek?
[22:20] Beer, Anal sex, and sleep. And you?
[22:20] Foul~~~~~~~
[22:20] those are *evidences* of a paradigm
[22:20] what is your *actual* paradigm?
[22:20] ten yard penaltie
[22:20] Analyze me, stud
[22:21] play goes to prof
[22:21] Do you believe that there is no God,
Zeek?
[22:21] prof...looks obvious to me...lol
[22:21] I rather like the LOGIC Paradigm which
excludes your GOD.
[22:22] he must be pouring beer
[22:22] Zeek......bad choice of premises
[22:22] what are the laws of logic, Zeek?
[22:22] GOD or ProfG
[22:22] AND, OR, NOT, and XOR
[22:22] Logic...excluding God
[22:22] Zeek: how do you use the laws of logic?
[22:23] I heard an eternal..."ooopppss"
[22:23] How do you use God?
[22:23] answer the question zeek
[22:23] Ask a question ProfG, not a generalization...
[22:23] ok...
[22:24] are you a naturalist, Zeek?
[22:24] Logic and emotion guide a man NOT blind
faith
[22:24] Zeek.....debate format does include
semantics...please answer :)
[22:24] OK
[22:24] lol....insert a NOT in there
[22:24] Naturalism is not enough to explain man
[22:24] are you a naturalist, Zeek?
[22:24] does he read?
[22:24] NO
[22:25] yes
[22:25] no
[22:25] yes
[22:25] Zeek....can I ask you a question?
[22:25] are the laws of logic material, zeek?
[22:25] are the laws of logic material, zeek?
[22:25] Go ahead, NEd
[22:25] are the laws of logic material, zeek?
[22:25] nothing is material
[22:25] Zeek....does God not exist?
[22:25] HahHAh HAH
[22:25] i see.. so you are not material, zeek?
[22:26] God is a construct, an unnecessary construct.
[22:26] using your precious logic, zeek, prove
that you do not exist materially
[22:26] Zeek....does God not exist?....this
is a yes or no answer
[22:26] sorry prof....go ahead :)
[22:26] using your precious logic, zeek, prove
that you do not exist materially
[22:26] I'm afraid the question is not yes or
no..., allow me to explain my view...
[22:27] using your precious logic, zeek, prove
that you do not exist materially
[22:27] "nothing is material" - zeek exists - zeek's
"paradigm" is logic -
[22:27] using your precious logic, zeek, prove
that you do not exist materially
[22:27] Zeek....go with prof
[22:27] Ned- is the bot a bible bot
[22:27] arogers yes
[22:28] God is a representation, explanation,
and justification of natural instincts. It is not
necessarily a bad thing, just a choice. Some people
choose it others do not. That is no basis for the
judgement of man.
[22:28] using your precious logic, zeek, prove
that you do not exist materially
[22:28] ok
[22:28] I do exist materially.
[22:28] prove it
[22:28] you just said that nothing is material
[22:29] so how can you exist materially?
[22:29] Zeek..can you?
[22:29] Life is a contradiction with entropy.
Prove me wrong, profg.
[22:29] answer the question zeek
[22:29] you can't
[22:29] you don't know how
[22:29] What is your question?
[22:29] you say logic is your paradign
[22:29] you can't even use it
[22:30] What is your question>
[22:30] arogers...you a christian?
[22:30] you said nothing is material; so how
can you exist materially?
[22:30] you said nothing is material; so how
can you exist materially?
[22:30] I need only to exist, not satisy your
expectations of my existence
[22:30] arogers...you a christian?
[22:30] excuse me, satisfy
[22:31] sure am!
[22:31] DARN!!!
[22:31] thats kool
[22:31] Rather be dead, than christian
[22:31] use your precious logic to prove you
exist materially when nothing is material
[22:31] lol
[22:31] Logic is a tool, God is a joke
[22:31] Zeek...we can arrange that :)
[22:31] Zeek, it's this simple - you cannot use
the laws of logic in an atheistic paradigm
[22:31] sure am twice!
[22:31] you are making statements, and you cannot
prove anything
[22:32] A computer is logical is it not?
[22:32] Zeek....c mon.....at least be intelligble....
[22:32] no it is not
[22:32] Then what is a computer, ProfG
[22:32] what other joke has been great for
6000 years?
[22:32] Zeek: can you prove that the laws of
logic are true, without employing the laws of logic?
[22:33] Answer the question, ProfG...
[22:33] Zeek: you refuse to answer any questions.
We have lgic and reason for our beliefs; you apparently
have none
[22:33] Then what is a computer>
[22:33] I will gladly answer your questions when
you start answering a single one of mine
[22:34] Go ahead, ask one, let's go mano a mano
[22:34] fine
[22:34] about time
[22:34] you say you believe in logic, not God
[22:34] Let me correct...
[22:34] prove that logic can exist in an atheistic
paradigm
[22:35] I believe in logic and emotion, in humanity
not God.
[22:35] it cannot
[22:35] stating your belief proves nothing, Zeek
[22:35] Logic is concretely defined. It has no
bearing on religion.
[22:35] Disagree?
[22:36] definition does not prove
[22:36] prove that logic exists in an atheistic
paradigm
[22:36] Life is not about proving, but existing.
[22:37] Zeek: let me use your words then, for
my own benefit - "God is concretely defined... I believe
in God... life is not about proving God, but that God
exists"
[22:37] would you accept me saying that?
[22:37] NedFlndrs (Dananova@ppp13.snni.com) left #apologetics.
[22:37] sure, but its not my belief.
[22:37] you accept that belief as true?
[22:38] No, I accept itas your belief. Prove
god exists.
[22:38] the proof of God's existence is the impossibility
of the contrary
[22:38] Vague... Try again.
[22:39] Without the existence of God, one could
not prove *anything*
[22:39] did you understand it that time?
[22:40] No, to have ameaningful conversation,
one must define god.
[22:40] the God of the Bible
[22:40] the Christian God
[22:40] there, defined
[22:40] That God is shallow.
[22:40] Goodnight.
[22:40] you are ducking the issue
[22:40] Zeek (zeek@nscs21p18.remote.umass.edu) left
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[22:40] lamer
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