By: Fredric Rice
To: Jim Staal
Re: Staal is Pinocchio to our Geppetto

js> When I offered an identicle one to Gwenny, it was
js> totally condemned by you, him many others on the echo.

FR> Your mock "apology" didn't include a retraction of the _belief_ which
FR> spawned your latest blunder.  You _still_ haven't expressed your
FR> recanting of the belief that Gwenny deserved to be beaten.

js> Do you have any evidence of this alleged 'belief'? If so,
js> trot it out here and I'll take a look at it. If not, SHUTUP!

  "Shut up!  Shut up!  Shut up!"

Jim, if the truth about what you mistakenly type makes you upset, _learn_ from
your mistakes.  It's all very well to sit back and deny everything you say,
resting comfortably in the very real possibility that no one takes you
seriously enough to archives your lies, but you don't do yourself any favors
lying to yourself.

We're here to _help_ you escape Christianity, Jim.  Let us help, won't you?

FR> All you did was express your apology that you
FR> _mentioned_ that she deserved to be beaten.

js> Liar! I said I was sorry my words offended her.

No, you said you were sorry for saying it, not for believeing she deserved it.
Until you apologize to her properly -- AND apologize to the forum at large for
being an ass about it -- you can expect to continue to be plagued by your own
"accidental" admissions until you do.  Or until you die.

Get busy.  I expect to see your apology.

js> SALAD BAR! SALAD BAR! Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! [TM] Larry Sites

FR>   Jim, you are without a doubt one of the most easy to
FR> understand fundies which has come through this forum.

js> Great. Then why are you so slow in getting the idea?

Yep.  Wind-ups are easilly predicted as well.  You dance to _my_ music and you
pay _my_ piper -- and there's not a thing you can do about it.  You're so
easilly manipulated and understood that, with a little effort, you might be
manipulated into putting on a pink tutu, standing outside on your front lawn,
and singing the words to Babaloo at the top of your lungs -- left thumb deftly
inserted up your bum, while you're at it.

And you know what?  There's not a thing you could do to stop yourself -- if the
heathens in this forum wanted to manipulate you into doing so.  You run our
little mazes, search for the little bits of cheese we set out for you, run the
wheels around and around, and you convince yourself you're still free to run
down the wrong maze, eat the wrong bits of cheese, run the wheels backwards, or
even refuse to play our games.

Sorry.  No can do.  You play Pinocchio to our Geppetto.  We pull a string and
you twitch.  We push a button and you jump.  We lead and you follow -- you
can't help yourself.  You _want_ to play the lab rat.  We're your natural
leaders by virture of our superior intelligence.  Oh you pretend your fictional
constructs are your Alpha to your Beta but _WE_ -- the people who torment you
and manipulate you -- are your Alpha, Jim.

Bend over for us.  You know you want to.

FR> Here you are presented with a very real and solid forum for
FR> extracting yourself from that death cult of yours and you
FR> alienate the very people who are here to help you.  You know
FR> you want to leave; you know this forum is a good one for
FR> finding the courage to do so;

js> You are the one lacking in courage, sir...

And yet I'm the one who managed to escape falling into deity beliefs and you're
the one who's clinging to escape the undeniable eventuality of your own death.

Um, want to revise your opinion?

FR> you know you have enough evidence to discount your
FR> beliefs; and yet your ego gets in the way.

js> Haven't seen any to date...

That's part of your problem, yes.

FR> In all seriousness we are here to help you, Jim.  _Learn_ from your
FR> mistakes. You claim you're a big man and yet you're ego is so frail
FR> you can't admit when you've been deluded.

js> If you have any evidence to support this
js> claim...well, you know the rest...

  You're here, Jim.  Bend over for your Alpha.

~*~  "Thank you, God...may I have another?" - Steve Quarrella