HELLO, FOR SESSION TWO.
 Hello Davdiid. so what are you interested
 in. i will answer anything i can?

 WELL, I'M INTERESTED IN THE
 FORM THAT THESE ENTITIES TAKE. ARE THAY "FOG", FLESH, ETC.?

 well
 normally the incantation causes them to appear in whatever
 form i choose but they always have red eyes (or at least the
 demons do) that burn like fire. quite cute.

 HEE, HEE. I'D LIKE
 A CUTE DEAMON WITH A VERY SMALL BIKINI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
 I CONFESS THAT THE IDEA OF SUMMONING SOMETHING ONE CANNOT TOTALLY
 CONTROL BOTHERS ME. THERE IS SO MUCH OTHER THINGS ONE CAN FOCUS
 THEIR THOUGHTS AND ENERGIES ON. COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW
 YOU DEAL WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE
 EARTH-PLANE, THAT MAY CAUSE HARM TO OTHERS? IT'S MORE A KARMIC
 DEBT THAN I'D BE WILLING TO PAY.

 no. no. the only way someone
 could be harmed is if they were within my sight but not my circle. it's
 no problem if they break free of my control they can only destroy
 what is with in my sight. IF it broke free [IT] would find
 itself banished with maraculous(sp?) speed. if
 you dont become scared and leave the protection of the cicle
 than you are quite safe.

 OH. I THOUGH THAT IF ONE'S MIND (WILL)
 CONTROLS WHAT ONE SUMMONS, THE ENTITY SUMMONED KNOWS (MAGICALLY?)
 HOW TO CONTROL THE MIND. I'M NOT EXPRESSING THIS WELL. IT'S
 LIKE THE FRANKENSTIEN MONSTER MORAL THAT SAYS "WHAT YOU CREATE
 MAY DESTROY YOU". ALSO, I HAVE READ OF SOME CHRISTIANS WHO PERFORMED
 AN EXORCISM WITHOUT PROPER STUDY, AND ENDED UP WITH CASTING
 THE "DEMON" OUT OF THE AFFECTED PERSON, BUT INTO ANOTHER. DO
 YOU THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE?

 oh possesion. quite another thing
 entirely! yes the entity summoned can posses you if you do not
 protect yourself spirtually and they, i am afraid, do it quite
 easily. a few of my "friends" said that is what warped Chareles
 Manson so much.

 YES, AND EVEN MANSON SAID HE WAS THE DEVIL INCARNATE.
 HE WAS ASKED WHEN THE DEVIL WOULD COME TO EARTH, AND HE SAID
 "I'M ALREADY OUT THERE, MAN." WITH THAT CRAZED LOOK IN HIS EYES.
 AS FOR POSESSION, I BELEVEAVE MANY HAVE EXPERIANCED
 EXTERNAL ATTEMPS AT A LESSER POSESSION CALLED "OBSESSION" (NOT
 WHAT WE NORNALLY CONSIDER OBESSESSION). WHERE THE EXTERNAL
 "FORCE" SUBTELY GUIDES AND CONTROLS IT'S HOST.

 yes yes all
 of what you said is quite true but i assure you i am not possessed
 and doubt that i would be foolhardy enough to not prepare myself
 spiritually.

 I DIDN'T MEAN TO APPLY THAT (I
 MEAN EMPLY). THE POINT I WAS THINKING WAS THAT I HAVE EXPEREANCED
 WHAT I CALL "PSYCHIC ATTACKS", WHERE ALOT OF MENTAL AND
 EVEN PHISICAL DAMAGE WAS DONE. I HAVE ALSO TAKED TO SOMEONE
 IN THE MAGICK ECHO THAT HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO HIM, EXACTLY!
 AND IN THE SAME CIRCOMSTANCES (SP?) TOO. I STILL DON'T THINK
 ANYTHING "OUT THERE" CAN HARM ONE IF ONE DOESN'T WANT IT TOO.
 IT'S JUST THAT THERE ARE TIMES I FELL THAT something IS OUT THERE,
 WAITTING.

 oh i understand. yes, i have had mental battles before
 with demons i summoned that left me very much worse
 for the wear. but that doesn't normally happen. you see if the
 demon were to win he would find himself trapped because the
 will works like a flood gate (and they know
 it), so that when to much pressure builds up it opens, letting
 stuff flood into the subconsisce (sp?) and then snaps back such
 and it only opens one way.

 SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE "POSESSION"
 WORKS BOTH WAYS? I HAVE READ OF A PRIEST CASTING OUT A DEMON
 (OR DOZEN) AND THE DEMON SAID THAT LUCIFER TOLD HIM HE
 COULDN'T LEAVE, THOUGH THE DEMON WANTED TO. WIERD. WOULD YOU
 TELL ME WHAT FORM YOUR "ATTACKS" HAVE TAKEN? MAYBE THEY ARE
 THE SAME AS i AND OTHERS HAVE FELT? I WILL KNOW ALOT MORE
 ABOUT WEATHER IT WAS JUST MY IMAGINATION OR NOT.

 most attacks
 i have experienced happened with me battling a dog.
 i by they way did not see myself also i felt a presence in my
 mind directing the dog.

 HUM. I HAVE "PROJECTED" MY MIND
 INTO A CAT BEFORE, BUT IT FELT TOO WIERD. THE "ATTACK" THAT
 I HAVE FELT IS FIRST OFF A FEELING LIKE SOMETHING WAS SITTING
 NEXT TO ME, *** WISHING TO EAT ME ***. IT MUST BE WHAT A MOUSE
 FEELS WHILE IN THE CAGE WITH THE SNAKE. ANYHOW, I FELT A "HAND"
 GRAB ME BY THE FOREHEAD AND PRESS DOWN WITH A GREAT DEAL OF
 FORCE. LIKE SOMEONE VERY HEAVY KNEELING ON MY HEAD. AND MY EARS
 RING, I CAN'T BREATHE, AND MY BODY CLENCHES TIGHTLY. THIS HAPPENS
 WHEN I THINK ABOUT GOOD AND EVIL, AND CONTEMPLATING "EVIL ENTITIES"
 LIKE SATAN. THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON WHO THIS HAS HAPPENED TO.
 IT'S FRIGHTENING.

 this is always how my attacks begin (my
 attack by the way usally come after summoning a demon partially
 but not completing the invocation.) but long about
 the time i feel my breath starting to be suckerd away i use
 a will of energy to force the entity into my mind so that we
 may battle properly. this by the way is more
 dangerous because if the demon would ever win he would be in
 my mind and in total control.

 YES! THAT IS WHAT I FELT. I KNEW
 THAT IF IT WON, I'D BE LOST AND COULD NEVER "GET BACK IN" MY
 BODY. IT WAS A VERY WIERD FEELING. SO YOU WOULD SAY THAT MY
 CONCENTRATINBG ON "SATAN" PARTILALLY SUMMONED HIM? ALSO, WHY
 WOULD YOU WISH TO "BATTLE" A DEMON IN YOU'RE MIND? WHY NOT JUST
 RUN LIKE HELL, (PARDON THE EXPRESSION)?

 yes YES!! you know the
 old expression "speak of the devil and he shalt come" well it
 IS TRUTH!!! and if i battle the demon within and
 win than i am promised more power because i "comsume" him and
 all the power he carries with him.

 WOWWIE! BUT MY QUESTIONING
 STILL REMAINS: IF THE METHOD IS SO DANGEROUS, WHY NOT USE ONE'S
 "POWER" IN OTHER THINGS? SOME PEOPLE CLIMB MOUNTAINS, OTHERS
 SERVE IN SUICIDE HOTLINES. THESE METHODS ALL "RAISE ONE'S POWER",
 BUT CAUSE A GOOD DEAL LESS HARM FOR THE MOST PART.

 how could
 those other methods raise ones power? explain.

 WELL, JUST
 AS PROJECTING HARM CAUSES ONE THREE-FOLD HARM, IT FOLLOWS
 THAT PROJECTING "GOOD" WILL RETURN "GOOD" THREE-FOLD. IT'S JUST
 MY OPINION. I SUSPECT WE MAY NEVER KNOW FOR SURE.

 i understand
 but i don't need good. i need substantial power [on} which i
 can "feed" so i can reuse the power i claimed . and don't
 misinterperate me- i normally dont want to battle demons
 and i dont normally leave incantations half finished.

 I BELEAVE
 I HAVE MET SOME "PSYCHIC VAMPIRES" BEFORE, LIKE IN A CONVELECENT
 HOSPITAL, WHERE THE SICK DRAW ON ANYTHING TO HELP THEM LIVE.
 AS FOR "FEEDING", I THINK A GOOD JOG DOWN THE BEACH WILL DO
 THE SAME. AS FOR PROTECTION, I HAVE LEARNED TO SURROUND MYSELF
 WITH A PROTECTIVE BUBBLE. I DO SO EVERYTIME I ATTEMPT TO HEAL
 SOMEONE AT A DISTANCE (I PUT THEM ON MY "SCREEN", AND VISUALIZE
 THEM HEALTHY). I HAVE YET TO BE HARMED THIS WAY, I FEEL, BECAUSE
 I'M DOING IT TO RAISE SOMEONE ELSE'S "POWER", AND NOT MY OWN.

 all
 well i don't draw from other people so i can't be doing anything
 awful and i most definitly don't care if i do: i am practical
 you know.

 WELL, THAT BRINGS IN THE QUESTION OF RESPONSIBILITY
 AGAIN. I DON'T LIKE TO GAIN THROUGH ANOTHERS LOSS, THOUGH I
 KNOW THAT'S THE STRUCTURE LIFE IS BUILT ON. THAT'S WHY , AMONG
 OTHER REASONS, THAT I DON'T EAT MEAT, AND RESTRICT MY TRASH
 TO ONLY BIO-DEGRADABLE. IF I DIDN'T EARN SOMETHING, i don't
 want it!!!

 you must be more practiclal David. i mean you
 need to gain a large amount of knowledge during a ceremony
 and then see just how greedy one can get even though it
 could cost others.

 NO ONE NEED TELL ME THAT THERE ARE THOSE WHO
 WOULDN'T HESITATE TO USE ME FOR COMPOST, ** if i let them ** BUT
 I FIND THAT I CAN USUALLY FIND ALL THE KNOWLEDGE I NEED, RIGHT
 IN MY OWN MIND. I JUST HAVE TO COAX IT OUT, WHICH IS OFTEN HARD.
 ALSO, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THIS HARD WORK FOR
 ME ALREADY, AND ALL I NEED TO DO IS READ THEIR BOOKS OR SEEK
 THEM OUT.

 well i understand what you are saying and i am as you
 say willing to give you any knowledge you want. so is there anything
 else interesting you about wizardry? hum is there? huh huh huh?

 WELL,
 FIRST OFF I THINK THAT "KNOWLEDGE" COMES FROM within, AND THAT
 ONLY "INFORMATION" IS GATHERED FROM AN EXTERNAL SOURCE. AS TO
 "WIZZARDRY", I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND REALLY CAN'T
 SEE WHY I WOULD NEED TO KNOW MUCH IF ANYTHING. I FIND THAT SERVICE
 TO OTHERS, AND "LOVE" IS JUST AS GOOD AT RAISING ONE'S "POWER"
 THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

 okay i under stand . i will not classify
 the info we have share under the title "wizardry" any more
 and i will just go with the flow, so to speak, so it will be
 easier .

 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, THERE IS A "SATANIST" NAMED TIM
 MARONEY ON THE MAGICK ECHO. HE MAY LIKE TO DISCUSS THINGS WITH
 YOU. THEN AGAIN, HE MAY NO LONGER BE USING THE ECHO
 (WE AREN'T SURE). I MUST ALSO CONFESS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN
 THE "DESIGNS" YOU DRAW WITH CHALK. IF NOT A PENTACAL, THEN
 WHAT?

 i use the sygil and incantation from an acient eleventh
 century latin manuscript that was translated though i still
 use the latin chants.

 I HAVE OFTEN WISHED I KNEW LATIN! IT'S
 SUCH A USEFUL LANGUAGE. THE ROSCRUTIAN ORDER HAS A "HERMETIC
 SEAL" MEDALION, THAT I FEEL IS VERY POWERFUL. I WOULD
 LIKE A WALL POSTER OF IT. OR HAVE IT PAINTED ON THE FLOOR, OR
 AS A BED SHEET.

 hum very interesting i speak latin fluently so
 if its in latin i would love to translate it. also if it is
 on a medaliion than get one leave a message to me with the
 words it says on it and i witll begin translation at once!

 WELL,
 I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK THE ONLY THING WITH LETTERS ON IT
 ARE JUST GREEK CHARACTERS, THAT DON'T ACTUALLY SPELL ANYTHING,
 BUT RATHER MEAN SOMETHING BY THEMSELVES. ALSO, THERE IS A MASSONIC
 MEDALION WITH COMPASS AND DIVIDERS THAT'S REALLY NEAT. I'D
 LIKE A MEDALION OF THAT, AS WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO
 GET ONE.

 yes a lake of info. well i need to sign off if you don't
 mind i have thing thatS must be done in this mundane world, unfortunatly.
 OK. SEE YOU. BYE.