File: S T E V E W I N T E R O V E R V I E W (winter.txt)
Arch: Right-wing fundamentalist extremist archives (rr.lib)
Depost: The Skeptic Tank 1:102/890.0 (818) 335-9601
Lstupd: 08/Nov/95
In alt.religion.scientology, Fredric L. Rice said:
fr> There's no need for him to admit to it publically here. He has done
fr> so in FidoNet any number of times and, in any event, his rhetoric and
fr> rabidity serves to indicate the measure of his involvement in this
fr> rather deadly brand of Christianity.
fr>
fr> What I find annoying is that he's probably here in a.r.s hopeing to
fr> participate as a "cult buster" acting as just another member of a rival
fr> cult. Sadly, Cult Awarness Network used to be a wholly positive and
fr> good group of individuals who pointed out the activities of groups like
fr> Scientology but, after the death of its founder, fell into corruption
fr> and ended up being nothing more than a rival cult pointing at other
fr> cults and denouncing them.
fr>
fr> That's what Steve Winter does. He points at rival cults and denounces
fr> them all the while demanding that _his_ cult is somehow better or
fr> superior. The fact that he's a Pentecostal nutcase with a strong
fr> hatred of gays and Christians doesn't have to be admitted publically
fr> inasmuch as his own words serve quite well enough to bring about his
fr> own undoing.
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NOBODY@NOWHERE.ORG stated the following:
Just a short note to help get you up to speed here.
Winter is a well known psychotic from the Fido network, who
runs/Moderates a Christless echo called HOLY_BIBLE (more commonly
known as HOLY_BABBLE).
Unfortunately, the name of the mail area hides the actual fact
that the echo is nothing more than a place for Steve to spout his
canned doctrinal hateful posts.
Any poster who posts anything that is in disagreement with Steve's
"version" of the Bible is immediately hit with feed cut demands, and
complaints against the operator of the system where the message
originated.
Steve claims the person is "disrupting" his echo, and follows with
his normal name calling.
Notice that Steve allows NO one to post anything that he is in
disagreement with. Anyone who disagrees with him is being disruptive.
You may have realized that this "disruptive" behavior that Steve
so hates in his Fido echo, and absolutely refuses to tolerate, is
exactly the same behavior he is displaying in the various
Internet news groups.
He won't allow any of that in HIS echo, but he is demanding that
you allow him to do this here despite many requests that he stop.
He can dish it out, but he can't seem to take it.
Hypocritical of this, wouldn't you say?
Some points to think about. Many of those who disagree with
Steve find themselves geting calls from him, "cursing" them (there
is a funny WAV file floating around of one of these calls...).
Apparently Steve does not think that calls of that nature are
harrassing to anyone else.
If you want a copy of this WAV file, post me a note in
one of the Christnet echo (to RABANUS@SSTAR.COM) and I will
send it to you. There is also a collection of JPG files
that are also available. Just ask...
He will try to contact your employer, if he can find out where you
work, and try to have you fired from your job. There are many cases of
this happening, so do not disbelieve this.
He routinely calls various police agencys in attempts to have
people arrested for harrassing him (his word for disagreeing with
him).
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Area: Z1_Political
Date: 03-30-95 16:25
From: Todd Cochrane
To: Bob Moravsik
Subj: Re: A crackpot
MSGID: 1:2612/114.0 87E24A84
TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 94-0019
SW> anonymous call that you placed here (St Mary's County
SW> Sheriff's complaint # 31142-94)
BM> I checked...they never heard of this...
He filed the complaint in response to my 2 calls to his 800 number
were I left him voice mail to quit calling my wife and I and harassing
us. The Sheriffs that called me asked what was up because Steve had
flooded there office with Fax's I told him the situation and he agreed
that Steve was some kind of religious nut and asked me not to call his
800# again.. He said the guy in his letters and on the phone sounded
like a fanatic..
He had made several of his usual phone calls to us and in one case
made my wife cry she being from Japan and only having been here for
about a month she had never received a threatening phone call this is
when it became personal and I called him on his dime since he likes to
pay to call people so much...
He was also instructed by the sherifs dept not to call me again or he
would be facing real charges..
This was way back in December. They dismissed the complaint based
upon a 5 minute phone call he also filled a complaint against another
individual in the local area same exact results the complaint was
dropped..
Then not to be deterred Steve started posting our names, Phone
numbers and address's in National echos. My company attorney has
collected quite a portfolio on Mr Winters and if he ever try's anything
again we have enough material on him to have one hell of a nice time
down in Durham NC..
-!- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12
Origin: Hafa Adai Exchange, Great Mills MD (1:2612/114.0)
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Jerry Rabanus (Rabanus@Sstar.com):
He will call your Internet provider and try to have you removed
from the net is you write to him in disagreement (remember, he thinks
that if you disagree with him, you are "harrassing" him.)
He records every call coming onto his house, and will call the
phone company and file charges against anyone who calls (that he can
identify) him to voice disagreement with his false doctrines.
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* Forwarded from "FN_SYSOP"
* Originally by Steve Winter, 1:18/98
* Originally to All
* Originally dated 15 Dec 1994, 23:20
* Forwarded (from: HOLY_BIBLE) by Steve Winter using timEd/2 1.01+.
* Originally from Steve Winter (98:98/1) to All.
* Original dated: Dec 15 '94, 22:47
Well, speak of the devil(s)....
The following individuals were among those who were active in the
disruption of this echo. Here are some interesting thingies:
Dec 5 Two obscene phone calls traced to XXX-XXX-XXXX
(Bill Roper NC3801 FidoNet official)
XXXX Perdue Dr
Tyler, TX 75703
Complaint filed with Tyler, Tx Police Dept
Dec 5 Four harassing calls traced to
Buggs Bugnon XXX-XXX-XXXX
XXXX Barefoot Dr
California, MD
Complaint 31142-94 filed, St Mary's County Sheriff's Dept
Dec 5 Two harassing calls traced to XXX-XXX-XXXX
Todd Cochrane
Blue Arch Apts, Apt #XXXX
Great Mills, MD
Included in Complaint 31142-94 filed with St Mary's County
Sheriff's Dept
Several harassing calls traced to Peter Herman XXX-XXX-XXXX
Ft Wayne Indiana
Complaint filed with Durham, NC police dept IR#94-68337
forwarded to Ft Wayne Indiana Police Dept
(and there are some more serious criminal criminal charges being
pursued regarding "the terminator" (Mr Hamm) that I don't want
to detail at this time).
This echo has been under vicious attack by some real low life
trash who have managed to hinder its distribution. We hope to
have the echo distribution returned to normal very soon.
HOLY_BIBLE has been a valid backbone echo since 1991.
Regards,
Steve Winter PreRapture BBS 919-286-3606 USR V.34 28800
Moderator/founder HOLY_BIBLE (The Wholly Bible Echo)
___ timEd/2 1.01+
- Origin:PRIME Network Host 919-286-3606 V.34 HST16.8 (98:98/1)
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Jerry Rabanus (Rabanus@Sstar.com):
He will call your home if he can get your number, and "curse"
you. Or he will encourage others to call your home and harrass
you or members of your families - wifes, parents, anyone.
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Area: Holy_Bible
Date: 13-00-13 35:07
From: Todd Cochrane
To: All
Subj: More phone calls
MSGID: 1:2612/114.0 876E3A45
TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 94-0019
Gosh I'm honored now I am receiving 1 phone call a day guess
he hopes one harrassment a day will keep Todd away..
It's ok the phone company has been nice enough to Document and do
trace back to confirm the harrasing phone calls. Amazing though how
hard it is to do things when it is happening over state lines....
Todd..
Steve go ahead run your phone bill up and keep talking to my
answering machine love it...
-!- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10
Origin: Hafa Adai Exchange, Great Mills MD (1:2612/114.0)
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Area: Holy_Bible
Date: 12-08-94 7:33
From: Todd Cochrane
To: Bill Roper
Subj: Sorry to have to bother y
MSGID: 1:2612/114.0 87713B06
TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 94-0019
> my phone rang Sunday afternoon (thought Sunday was a "day of rest".....)
> guy says, "can I speak to the parents of Bill Roper?"
> I asked who is calling...
> repeats himself... "can I speak to the parents of Bill Roper?"
> I asked who is calling.....
> he asks if this is Bill Roper...
> I say " who the hell is calling?"
> he says, "This is Steve Winter and I curse you in the name of
> Jesus for a false christian scum"..
> I say, "why don't you suck on the snotty end of...
> and click... he hangs up.....
> my wonderful callback feature doesn't handle out of state calls
> (yet) so I called his 800 #.....
> YES, VIRGINIA, THERE REALLY IS A SANTA CLAUS!!
> and the number is:
> 800-735-5266 Extension 64
> cheers...
> Bill....
He bill same exact MO next time he calls hit record on your
answering machine burn me a copy I already have over 50 of these
same types of phone conversations from all over the country it is
going to get interesting..
I think he is scared of me because he isnt using my name anymore
but it's too late he has messed up to much and now it's personal.
I have a legal department that is bored we are building a good
case wont be long now...
Todd...
-!- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10
Origin: Hafa Adai Exchange, Great Mills MD (1:2612/114.0)
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Area: FN_SYSOP
Date: 01-07-95 11:25
From: Tom Adams
To: Michael Benge
Subj: Re: Ahem...
MB> I'm sorry, but I give very little credence to persons that hide
MB> behind an alias in a network echo. It seems strange that the minute
MB> Steve Winter showed up, all of you guys have started popping in with
MB> aliases. If
Basically I agree with you except ...
I have heard that SW tends to harrass those who criticize him by calling
publicly listed numbers, etc.
Sure hope my discussions with SW haven't caused any problems for the
other four Tom Adams's living locally here or those who inherited
my listed numbers...
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! Origin: The CyberSpace Portal (1:206/2405) (1:206/2405)
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Jerry Rabanus (Rabanus@Sstar.com):
Don't believe this? Here is a recent message from the
Internet. Look carefully at Steve's words concerning another mans
wife.
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian,alt.christnet.bible,alt.christnet
Subject: Re: Steve Winter, loud mouthed trash (and goon)
From: everard@infi.net (M. Scott Everard)
Date: 6 Nov 1995 22:42:54 GMT
In article <47j042$pkl@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>,
stevwint@ix.netcom.com (Steve Winter) says:
> "Johnston, Joshua Allen"
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