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From: tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: FAQ: Celebrities in scientology
Date: 13 Jul 1995 20:59:37 GMT
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Hi there. My name is Tilman Hausherr, and I am the self-appointed
maintainer of the "scientology celebrities FAQ", posted from time
to time in "alt.religion.scientology". My e-mail address is
tilman@berlin.snafu.de, more stuff about scientology can be found
at http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/
0. Change history
1. Disclaimers
2. How names get in this FAQ
3. Names
4. Testimony of Diana Canova
5. Why do celebrities get into scientology ?
6. Identification of non US sources
0. Change history
25.6.1995: added Anne Archer's job
14.6.1995: added Katselas, California Magazine, Michael D. Roberts
11.6.1995: added some structure, and answer to "why" question,
added movies to Lehman
27.5.1995: more exact newspaper references
21.5.1995: Added a source for Peggy Lipton
Candice Bergen
Demi Moore
Emilio Estevez
16.5.1995: Cohen music in "NBK"
12.5.1995: Sonny Bono thanks Elron
8.5.1995: slightly corrected Damian Pope's part
6.5.1995: Added Alley's start in the cult
29.04.1995: Peggy Lipton, also added some names from NPoorman,
deleted Helmut Berger.
Bernard Paul (Circus Roncalli)
Corea "liner notes"
17.04.1995: William Burroughs (correction again)
16.04.1995: Leonard Cohen
Kate Cebrano
William Burroughs (correction)
added info from Damian Pope
"libeled" Sonny Bono some more
1. Disclaimers
Legal disclaimer:
Being in the FAQ means that "I have read somewhere that someone is
a scientologist".
If you feel that someone is wrongly placed on this FAQ, please tell
me, and I'll see what I can do. If you want a name added, please try
to give a reference. If you don't have one, then YOU are the reference,
which means that if you can't prove this, the celebrity could sue you.
Social disclaimer:
I do NOT advise you to get into scientology ! Do not buy their books,
except from a used book shop. Do not read their books, unless you also
read books critical about scientology. Just because a celebrity does
something silly doesn't mean YOU should. Doing weird things is a
tradition of stage actors, and there is no need that the rest of the
world population takes this as an advice.
Carrying a celebrity in this FAQ shouldn't be considered as a
"public statement" of me. It doesn't mean that any action should be
taken by the reader. In most cases, the status of those celebrities
is not known (only taken courses, OT, ...).
If you're a scientologist, you'll be happy to be in good company.
If you're not, maybe you'll think twice before writing fan mail.
2. How names get in this FAQ
I will keep only e-mail names where I don't have any book or newspaper
reference. Those e-mail references are only about the celebrity name,
not necessarely about the description text. "name withheld" means that
I know who the person is. I will do this only with persons that I
already know.
I will also name persons who are no longer scientologists, i.e. who
have been declared, or who "simply" left. More entries on
ex-scientologists are welcome !
The part "greatest achievements" will depend highly on my opinion,
and won't be "politically correct".
3. Names
Name: Tom Cruise
Profession: actor
Status: got in after marrying Mimi Rogers (Premiere)
Achievement: milk-face in many films: "Top Gun", "The firm", ...
Source: TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93, LA magazine 10/93
Name: Sonny Bono
Profession: singer, actor, republican, pizza delivery man in congress
Status: introduced by Mimi Rogers; took some courses, says
he's a roman catholic, not a scientologist (LA Times).
He says in Esquire:
"I openly studied scientology to the degree that they
did some courses on ethics, and then said thank you and
left. (...) The scientology - there was no cult thing there."
From drogers@huey.csun.edu (David D. Rogers):
According to Corydon's book, he was quoted as saying:
"My only sorrow is that L. Ron Hubbard left before I
could thank him for my new life," in a full-page ad
featured in several newspapers after Elron's death.
Achievement: Congressman, Palm Springs Mayor, Cher's ex-husband.
Cher: "A politician is usually a null, so the job fits him".
Source: TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93, LA magazine 10/93,
"Bigger Secrets", LA Times 5.12.91, Esquire 11/94,
California Magazine 6/91
Name: Nicole "nic" Kidman
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: wife of Tom Cruise, "far and away"
Source: Premiere 9/93, LA magazine 10/93
Name: Mimi Rogers
Profession: actress
Status: (2nd generation in Co$)
introduced Sonny Bono, Tom Cruise, John Brodie
Achievement: lingerie appearance on "Dream On" (wow !)
born-again fundamental christian in "The Rapture"
Source: CINEMANIA, TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93, LA magazine 10/93
Name: Priscilla Presley
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: "The naked gun", "Dallas", perfume, wife of Elvis
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: John Travolta
Profession: actor
Status: entered 1975, lifetime member of IAS
Achievement: "Grease", "Pulp Fiction"
Source: himself in ads, himself on "Entertainment tonight"
Name: Chick Corea
Profession: jazz pianist
Status: entered 1968
according to "Ich klage an": OT8, Patron with honor,
Freedom Medal
Achievement: getting "canceled" from a concert in germany
Source: himself in ads, FOCUS Dec 12/94, TIME May 6/91,
California Magazine 6/91, "A piece of blue sky";
he also thanks LRH on inside his CD covers
Name: Kirstie Alley
Profession: actress
Status: international spokesperson for Narconon International.
claims Narconon Intemational's substance abuse center
in Los Angeles helped her kick her cocaine habit in 1979.
Achievement: "A bunny's tale", "Star Trek 2", "Look who's talking",
"Cheers", hanging on the wall of my office
Source: TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93, Daily Oklahoman 11.10.90
Name: Karen Black
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: "The Monkey" in "Portnoy's complaint", "Five easy pieces"
Source: Premiere 9/93, California Magazine 6/91
Name: Linda Blair
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: threw up lots of pea soup in "The Exorcist", having her skirt
ESPed in "zapped again", film-mother of "seven" on MWC.
Source: "Der Sektenkonzern", "Berliner Zeitung" 23.7.92
Name: Ron Ely
Profession: actor
Status:
Achievement: "Tarzan", "Doc Savage"
Source: Deeny3@aol.com: "I know this one only because I saw him
there once and later saw his pc folders"
But:
luvalle@primenet.com (John Luvalle) believes that a
different Ron Ely was a student at ASHO, and it was
his folders that Deirdre saw.
Name: Pablo Roehrig
Profession: painter
Status: "Patron"
Achievement:
Source: "Ich klage an", STERN 9/93
Name: Gottfried Helnwein
Profession: graphic artist
Status: "Patron"
Achievement: James Dean picture, Man with forks in his eyes
Source: himself in ads, "Der Sektenkonzern", STERN 9/93
Name: Ingo Swann
Profession: writer, psychic, now a painter
Status: SP
Achievement: Exteriorized to Jupiter (Randi's "Flim Flam!")
"Star fire"
Source: informe@best.com (Mike MacLeod), DWTripp@aol.com
and Deeny3@aol.com about the status
Name: Harold Puthoff
Profession: mathematician, scientist, ESP researcher
Status:
Achievement: holds patent on tunable laser,
"analyzed" psychics Uri Geller and Ingo Swann,
and soiled the reputation of Stanford Research Institute.
Source: Randi's "Flim Flam!", Randi's "The truth about Uri Geller"
Name: Julia Migenes
Profession: opera singer (soprano)
Status: luvalle@primenet.com (John Luvalle):
LRH had her leave Sea Org to pursue her career.
Achievement:
Source: herself in ad, WP 10.12.94
Name: Nancy Cartwright
Profession: actress
Status: New OT IV, represents "The Way to Happiness"
Achievement: voice of Bart Simpson
Source: WP 10.12.94 & 25.12.94, TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93
California Magazine 6/91
idiot@primenet.com (Jonathon) about her status
Name: Billy Sheehan
Profession: rock bassist
Status:
Achievement: plays in band "Mr. Big"
Source: WP 10.12.94, Mike MacLeod: has been on late night infomercials
Name: Anne Archer
Profession: actress
Status: International spokesperson for "Applied Scholastics"
Achievement: wife in "fatal attraction"
Source: TIME May 6/91, Premiere 9/93, California Magazine 6/91
Name: Robert Lipton
Profession: actor
Status: out 1971
Achievement:
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: Peggy Lipton
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: "Twin Peaks" (the nice restaurant owner)
Source: NPoorman@aol.com (Noel Poorman):
She DID take Scn. courses. I know, because she and KAREN
BLACK twinned as students on Foundation (nights and
weekends) in the early '70s at C.C./L.A. the same time I
was on course.
"Premiere" 9/93 says that they pressured her brother Robert
to get her in.
DWTripp@aol.com saw her when he was ethics officer
Name: Don Simpson
Profession: producer
Status: out
He said, "I've now almost gone clear, why ain't I
happier ?". Response: "Things will be okay when you
go through OT3." At that point he realized it was a con.
He was brought in by Floyd Mutrux
Achievement: "Top Gun"
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: Lisa Marie Presley
Profession:
Status:
Achievement: Married to Michael Jackson
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: Juliette Lewis
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: "Natural born killers"
Source: Premiere 9/93, St. Petersburg Times 25.2.94, FOCUS Dec 12/94
Name: Kelly Preston
Profession: actress
Status: lifetime member of IAS
Achievement: "Twins", married to Travolta
Source: herself in ad, TIME May 6/91, "Impact 49" in "Ich klage an"
Name: Cathy Lee Crosby
Profession: actress
Status: out ?
npoorman@aol.com (NPoorman): one AOLA reg told me,
"Oh, she's crazy!"
Achievement: "Wonder Woman" (before Lynda Carter)
Source: npoorman@aol.com (NPoorman), deeny3@aol.com (_Deirdre)
Name: Stanley Clarke
Profession: jazz
Status: Dropped out
Achievement: Friend of Chick Corea
Source: "name witheld" (for the complete info)
Name: John Brodie
Profession: football player
Status: introduced by Mimi Rogers when she was 15, she was his
auditor. Was in from 1970-1982, went up to OT7.
he says: "I was involved for specific purposes. When I
completed those, I moved out".
"name withheld":
"He dropped out dissatisfied after being a real spokesman
for Scn. Scn goes through these people like Kleenex and
no one remembers the used-to-be's. Like Brodie. In the 70s,
he was BIG, not only as a football name but for Scn!!
Then - poof - gone! He dropped out and so they dropped him,
of course. Brodie prefers to not talk about it."
California Magazine:
"I will talk about the gains I've had, but I won't talk
about all the mishmash that some people seem concerned
about. I'm not part of the organization, so how can I
speak about it ? I can only speak about the integrity
of the services delivered, and I feel very good about
that"
Achievement: quarterback for the SFO 49ers
Source: "name withheld" (for the complete info)
California Magazine 6/91
Name: Shirley Maclaine
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: making a fool of herself on David Letterman's show
Source: "Der Sektenkonzern", "Berliner Zeitung" 23.7.92.
Name: Sharon Stone
Profession: actress
Status: "she is going to courses" (Berliner Zeitung)
Achievement: screaming in movies with Richard Chamberlain, spreading
her legs on the silver screen
Source: "Der Sektenkonzern", "Ich klage an",
"Berliner Zeitung" 23.7.92.
Name: Al Jarreau
Profession: singer
Status:
Achievement: "Moonlightning" theme song
Source: "Der Sektenkonzern", "Ich klage an".
Name: Isaac Hayes
Profession: Musician, actor
Status:
Achievement: Oscar for "Theme from Shaft"
Source: St. Petersburg Times 25.2.94 & 6.12.94, WP 10.12.1994
Name: Maxine Nightingale
Profession: singer
Status:
Achievement:
Source: St. Petersburg Times 25.2.94
Name: Brad Pitt
Profession: actor
Status: Premiere: "drifted thru", took his courses while dating
Juliette Lewis. Interest waned after it.
Achievement:
Source: Premiere 9/93, CLEO 6/95
Name: Ernest Lehman
Profession: screenwriter, producer, director
Status:
Achievement: "The Sound of Music", "Portnoy's complaint", "Family Plot"
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: Raven de la Croix
Profession: actress
Status:
Achievement: "Up!"
Source: Director Russ Meyer in an interview for german book
"Russ Meyer", he called scientology "one of the nastiest cults"
Name: Floyd Mutrux
Profession: screenwriter, director, producer
Status:
Achievement: "Dick Tracy" according to Premiere, but this is confirmed
neither by CINEMANIA nor by the Internet Movie database.
Source: Premiere 9/93
Name: Frank Stallone (Sly's brother)
Profession: actor, singer, songwriter
Status:
Achievement: bartender in "Barfly"
Source: "Bigger Secrets"
Name: Amy Heckerling
Profession: director
Status:
Achievement: Look who's talking 1 & 2
[TH: I wonder if the baby was also a scientologist !]
Source: "Der Sektenkonzern"
Name: A.E. van Vogt
Profession: science-fiction writer
Status: No involvment in scientology itself:
Prominent advocate of Dianetics, recruited by his
fellow-SF writer Hubbard in 1950 and called him "the boss".
He ran the Los Angeles Dianetics Foundation in late 1950.
said in his book "Dianetics and the Professions", 1953:
"Financial disaster was inevitable". A.E. van Vogt
endorsed LRH's "Battlefield Earth" as a 'masterpiece'
on its cover, but confessed in an interview with RM that
he had been daunted by its size and had not actually
bothered to read it.
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