(3601)  Tue 9 Jul 91  0:26
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: *more* on Crop circles
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Spotted this on Usenet tonight:

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Article 762 of alt.alien.visitors:
From: rob@aixssc.ibm.co.uk (Robert Trevelyan)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Crop Circles in the UK
Message-ID: <1991Jul08.091937.22497@aixssc.ibm.co.uk>
Date: 8 Jul 91 09:19:37 GMT
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Dick,

        I have been interested/involved in crop circles for about
        two years and was very fortunate last year to find the first
        pictogram in a field in Chilcomb , Winchester . This was the
        first crop circle not be of the normal circle/ring form as it
        had boxes and paths . Through this and my interest in the
        phenomenon I have made aquaintances with the leading circle
        investigators and even got a mention in a few books on the subject.
        I am also a member of CPR ( Circles Phenomnon Research - Pat Delgado
        and Colin Andrews ) and CCCS ( Centre for Crop Circle Studies ) .
        I live in an area that is about 15 minutes from Winchester and
        about 45 minutes from Silbury Hill in Wiltshire , these are the
        most popular areas for crop circles and I have been in about
        50 or so or them over the last year or two .

        The team that witnessed the crop circle I previously mentioned
        on Morgans Hill , Wiltshire was run by ex BBC Producer and now
        Director of Circle Vision , circles PR company ? ,and a team
        of cameramen . They are the same team that assisted Delgado and
        Andrews on Operation Blackbird in 1990 , remmember the hoax.
        Anyway currently in that area at the moment are three independant
        watches arranged by Dr. Meaden ( The vortex man ) called Operation
        Blue Hill , CCCS called Operation Sirius and a CPR watch called
        Operation Nightingale .

        I found out about this as I have a friend that is the Director of
        field research for CCCS and he also works for the same company as I do.
       As he lives in a different part of the UK than I do it allows us
        to keep in touch of all areas of southern England . I also receive
        information from visiting sites that are known circle areas and
        in addition to that receive details via a circle network via the
        mail . If you are interested in joining this let me know and I will
        send you the address to write to .

        This years formations seem to be based on a new formation which has
        been termed "insectograms" as they have paths and circles that look
        like antennae . I believe there has been about 100+ circles this
        year to date but there has also been a great many hoaxes . A hoax
        can be perpetrated as it is not dousable and is very often rough
        at its edges . This is very much dependant on the crop it is
        created in as barly created a rougher looking formation but if it
        douses as well it point toward non-hoax. Hoaxed circles look and
        feel like hoaxes as they are very rough , the crop is always broken
        not layed down and happens when there are tramlines to the field,
        the lines the tractors wheels create .

        I visited the lecture given by Terence Meaden on Plasma Vortex
        last year and totally agree with you that the guy is slightly
        off the track where it comes to most crop circles. I do believe
        that simple circles can be created by his plasma vortex theory
        if there is a hill nearby and if the weather is correct for this but
        as for this being the answer I think he is crazy . How can a
        spiraling vortex of charged air/dust particles create boxes ,
        paths or even rings , let alone triangles that were seen last year.

        Anyway I have just received a note about a new crop circle
        in the field where last years eighth of a mile pictogram appeared
        at Alton Barnes, Wiltshire . I will post details of this to the
        news as soon as I have read it .

        Be in touch , Robert

>
>Thanks for the great info.  Can you say who the team is and how you
>know about this?  How many crop circles have there been previously
>this season?  Any new shapes?
>
>Plasma vortex, my arse.  This looks like something much more interesting.
>Please post any and all new info you can.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dick Shoup
>shoup@netcom.com
>
>


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Don

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