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>> Nazi Germany was a VERY religious state, in fact,

> What was the state religion of Nazi Germany?

"Religious writers often claim that the cause of Nazism is the secularism or the scientific spirit of the modern world. This evades the facts that the Germans at the time, especially in Prussia, were one of the most religious peoples in Western Europe; that the Weimar Republic was a hotbed of mystic cults, of which Nazism was one; and that Germany's largest and most devout religious group, the Lutherans, counted themselves among Hitler's staunchest followers."

"Given their commitment to the method of faith (and their tendency to imitate the Catholic Church), it is not astonishing that some Nazis went all the way in this issue. A tendency never given the status of official ideology yet fairly prominent in the movement was voiced in a demand made by several of its leading figures (though Hitler himself regarded it as impractical until the Nazis won the war): the demand that Nazism itself be turned into a full-fledged religion. These voices urged a state religion supplanting the older creeds, with its own symbols, its own rituals, and its own zealots avid to convert christians into fanatic Hitler-believers, as, once, ancient missionaries had converted pagans into fanatic christians. "Adolf Hitler," exclaimed one such believer (the Nazi Minister for Church Affairs), "is the true Holy Ghost!" (15)

"The Nazis did not survive long enough to complete this development. To the end, they could not decide whether to retain christianity, construing Nazism merely as its latest, truest version ("positive christianity," this wing often called it)--or to concoct a distinctively Nazi creed out of a hodgepodge of elements drawn from pagan Teutonic mythology and romanticist metaphysics. In either case, however, whether advanced as a form of or a successor to christ- ianity, what Nazism did unfailingly demand of its followers was the essence of the religious mentality: an attitude of awed, submissive, faithful adoration. "We believe on this earth SOLEY (emphasis by writer) in Adolf Hitler...," intoned Dr. Robert Ley to a reverent audience of 15,000 Hitler Youths. "We believe that God has sent us Adolf Hitler." (16)

Excerpts from "The Ominous Parallels" by Leonard Peikoff.

(15) Viereck, op. cit., p.289; quoting from Eugene Lyons, "Dictators into Gods" (American Mercury, March 1939).

(16) Ibid.; quoting from the New York Times, February 11, 1937.

But of course, no one was killed in the name of god. (Eyes closed tight and exclaiming, "Did not!")

The connection between the Catholic church an Facism lies not in the actual teachings of Catholicism but in the methodology of teaching it. Hitler admired the Church for this reason; its knowledge of human nature, it hierarchal organization, its discipline, its uncommonly clever tactics.

Hitler is quoted as saying, "I have followed the Church in giving our party program the character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its ammendment, every logical criticsm or attack on it, has been rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be built upon a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory, or irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it."


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