The cure for cults that want to deny others
their freedom of speech is more freedom of speech
-- Fredric Rice

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Creationist Cults

Apparently no lie is beyound creationists no matter how easily debunked. The ICR cult claimed that one of The Skeptic Tank's web pages some how belonged to them despite the fact that the web page contains a copyright notice clearly identifying that it belongs to The Skeptic Tank. Later the cult claimed that every text file in a directory on one of my computers that contains criticism of various creationist cults some how belonged to them. After a while the cult eventually got around to listing all of the file names of the directory on my computer, claiming they all some how violate copyright rules -- which was and is a complete lie. The cult claimed they started threatening me some time in March when in fact it was June when the cult sent their first known threat.

The ICR cult didn't send their false allegations to me, however. For some reason they sent it to one of The Skeptic Tank's web site hosts, the one containing one of my copyrighted web pages created by automated software I wrote called MakeHTML. That web host forwarded the cult's groundless allegations to me. The cult's later e-mails seem to indicate that their computer incompetence was what led them to e-mail my host instead of me.

At first, knowing that creationists are on the whole illiterate, liars, and given to profound incompetence, I attempted to assist the cultist with what I had thought was just his or her ignorance about computers and how the Internet worked. As you observe the e-mails exchanged listed from this main index, you'll observe a number of salient points:

Is it any wonder that creationists have the reputations they have?

I've attempted to order these e-mails in date and time sequence so that you can observe the ICR cult's behavior in some kind of "real time." After the cultist had his or her groundless accusations and allegations debunked, he or she fell predictably silent. This, too, is common when creationists are debunked in public forums. (Note: The date and time stamps, I discover, don't seem to be very accurate. I'll do my best to get them in order.)


* 2f901250.htm - June 10, 2002 01:25:XX -- First known E-mail from ICR cult
* 2f909410.htm - 10 Jun 2002 09:41:18 - Letter from FRice to Electronic Frontier Foundation
* 2f914390.htm - 10 Jun 2002 14:39:10 - Letter from EFF to FRice
* 2f915130.htm - 10 Jun 2002 15:13:59 - Letter from FRice to EFF
* 2fa07530.htm - 11 Jun 2002 07:54:44 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice (Doctored quote)
* 2fa10300.htm - 11 Jun 2002 10:30:52 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fa10500.htm - 11 Jun 2002 10:50:46 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fa11220.htm - 11 Jun 2002 11:22:15 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fa12450.htm - 11 Jun 2002 12:45:46 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fa22572.htm - 11 Jun 2002 22:57:08 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fb10430.htm - 12 Jun 2002 10:43:15 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fb21140.htm - 12 Jun 2002 21:14:25 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fb22560.htm - 11 Jun 2002 22:56:34 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fb22571.htm - 11 Jun 2002 22:57:02 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice (Duplicates)
* 2fc09480.htm - 13 Jun 2002 09:48:02 - Leter from FRice to ICR cult
* 2fc17200.htm - 13 Jun 2002 17:20:21 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fc18261.htm - Jun 13 2002 18:26:14 - Letter from FRice to ICR cult
* 2fc18260.htm - 13 Jun 2002 18:26:48 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fc19550.htm - 13 Jun 2002 19:55:43 - Letter from ICR cult to FRice
* 2fd08330.htm - 14 Jun 2002 08:33:24 - Letter from FRice to Internet Infidels
* 2fd09020.htm - 14 Jun 2002 09:02:00 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fd09400.htm - 14 Jun 2002 09:40:44 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fd09470.htm - 14 Jun 2002 09:47:25 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fd10080.htm - 14 Jun 2002 10:08:24 - Letter from Web Host to ICR cult
a href="2fd12310.htm"> * 2fd12310.htm - 14 Jun 2002 12:31:27 - Letter from Web Host to FRice
* 2fd10400.htm - 14 Jun 2002 10:40:30 - Letter from FRice to Web Host
* 2fd15480.htm - 14 Jun 2002 15:48:15 - Letter from Internet Infidels to FRice
* 2fd19140.htm - Jun 14 19:14:25 2002 - Letter from FRice to ICR cult
* 2fe12144.htm - Jun 15 12:14:43 2002 - From FRice to ICR cult
* 2fe12230.htm - Jun 15 2002 12:23:08 - Letter from FRice cult to ICR cult
* 2fj12580.htm - 20 Jun 2002 12:58:04 - Unrelated letter from Shydavid to herndon5@swbell.net
* 2fj14500.htm - 20 Jun 2002 14:50:38 - Unrelated letter from Stewart to FRice
* 2fj17240.htm - 20 Jun 2002 17:24:48 - Unrelated letter from FRice to Stewart
* 2fj20370.htm - 20 Jun 2002 20:37:33 - Unrelated letter from Mike to FRice
* 2fk07090.htm - 21 Jun 2002 07:09:05 - Letter from U. S. Dep of Education to FRice
* 2fk08460.htm - 21 Jun 2002 08:46:08 - Letter from FRice to U. S. Dep of Education
* 2fk08560.htm - 21 Jun 2002 08:56:37 - Letter from FRice to U. S. Dep of Education
* 2fk09060.htm - 21 Jun 2002 09:06:03 - Note to myself covering 'TRACS' mill
* 2fk09080.htm - 21 Jun 2002 09:08:22 - Letter from FRice to TRACS mill
* 2fk09160.htm - 21 Jun 2002 09:16:30 - Letter from FRice to CHEA mill
* 2fn08080.htm - 24 Jun 2002 08:08:23 - Letter from CHEA mill to FRice
* 2g000380.htm - 01 Jul 2002 00:38:51 - Open letter from Zenon to ICR cult
* 2g010520.htm - 01 Jul 2002 10:52:32 - Letter from FRice to Zenon


Any text written by the creationist cult which may be quoted within this criticial examination of the creationist cult is provided according to U. S. Code Title 17 "Fair Use" dictates which may be reviewed at http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html


"You can lie about ICR all you want." -- Jason Daniel Henderson

"Thank you for your permission however there's never any need to. Creationist propaganda is already self-debunking." -- Fredric L. Rice

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