Here's a follow-up on the Illuminati BBS...

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>What was the bust related to? you mention the "911" case..but
>you don't say what it is.

The 911 case concerns the alleged theft of some proprietary software
from AT&T which resulted in Federal crackdowns on various hacker BBSes,
including the one at SJG.  Read comp.telcom.dcom for more details.

      -- Scott Turner


Posted: Tue Mar  6 19:30:56 1990

Ok since there have been a few people asking "why?" I think I'll
throw out some of what I know.

A certain group of "hackers" called the Legion of Doom has gained the
attention and anger of the feds and Southern Bell. A while ago, several
of their members were treated to the search and seizure act by the secret
service, and there were lately some indictments. The feds & SBell say
that the LoD broke into the 911 system and planned to publish some of the
spoils. So you ask "Where does SJG enter in this?"

Maybe you've heard something about Jolnet, attctc (Killer) and netsys
They were recently shut down with very little warning and had lots
of equiopment confiscated by the SS, as LoD members and
associates used these, and the feds were looking for illegal material
in private correspondance. Note that I said private, I am not saying that
these are all run by "crooks."

I am not quite sure about the connection to SJG, but I think that an
employee of SJG happens to be a (retired?) member of the LoD, and the
feds were expecting to find illegal data and transactions going on in
the background. Whether or not they did, or will, I have no idea.

I've tried hard not to editorialize on this, and I think I should stop
before I do. If you want more information on this, I am finding a good
bit on comp.dcom.telecom, although they have not said much about SJG
specifically there.

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In article (Ken Yousten) writes:

>I am not quite sure about the connection to SJG, but I think that an
>employee of SJG happens to be a (retired?) member of the LoD, and the
>feds were expecting to find illegal data and transactions going on in
>the background. Whether or not they did, or will, I have no idea.

That's essentially what I heard -- they were interested in "The
Mentor," the chief editor at SJG, and allegedly an ex-member of the
LoD.  The various sources I've read and heard from say that his home
was raided and his home system taken.

I've also been told that SJG-BBS was taken not because of Mentor, but
because it had an account on it from one of the active LoD members.  I
have no idea how accurate that information is.

As I've said before, it's very unlikely the Feds will find anything on
the SJG-BBS, unless it's in the private email files somewhere.  The
sjsops kept the system scrupulously clean.

As a side note, the latest info I have is that whatever the Feds took
from SJG, it's hurt their operations significantly.  I think that's
because they were going to release GURPS Cyberpunk very soon, and some
of those files were apparently taken, so the production schedule got
messed up.  This is pure speculation on my part, so don't take it as
gospel.

---Walter


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