From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Guns N Roses CD Bootleg review: December 1992
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Date: 7 Dec 92 18:11:37 GMT
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  Here is the latest list update, unchanged since August.  Please feel free
to mail me any updates that you may have!  Thanks.

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THE GUNS N ROSES CD REVIEW				8/10/92

Each CD tries to include the following information:
	
	1. Title
	2. company/location
	3. songlist
	4. sound quality rating

  Quality ratings are as follows:

  Excellent (EX, EX+, EX-):

	Studio-quality CD; very crisp and clear; vocals easily understood;
	instruments strong and clear; soundboard mixed;

  Very Good (VG, VG+, VG-)
	
	Close to studio quality; some sound interference; vocals and 
	instruments fade out at times; some feedback and echoing may be
	present.  sound mixing may be muffed in some places

poor
	Any CD recording that does not rank above VG- is considered to be
	poor; usually a poor rating of a CD show would be equivalent to
	an audience taped bootleg; a poor recording may not have been
	taken from a soundboard, or may have used a poor quality master
	tape.  Very few non-soundboard bootlegs can rate higher than VG.

	a poor quality sounding CD is characterized by one or more of the 
	following: incomprehensible lyrics; muffled sound for extended
	periods of time; poor dubbing between songs; incomplete songs;
	instruments being played not easily distinguishable; show not 
	taped in stereo; overbearing crowd noise that washes out the 
	music; pops, splices, and/or gaps that break the sound continuity
	of the concert
	
	if a Sound Quality rating does not appear, that means I haven't
        heard the CD myself- I'm very picky about CD quality, so if I
        give it an EX it deserves it; conversely, it the quality sucks
        I won't hesitate to give it a poor rating as well.

        mail any updates you have have to fierro@uts.amdahl.com- for a
        CD please include the following info:

		1) name of CD as it appears on cover
	
		2) name of manufacturer and country

		3) date of show(s)

		4) all tracks on the CD
	
		5) (optional) sound quality rating, using above guidelines


Don't be ripped off!!!  Use the GNR CD REVIEW!!!  Enjoy!!!

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.44 Calibre Horticulture  (VOL. 2)
Side A:                            Side B:
LIVE at CBGB 10/30/87       | (Live in London (the Marquee) 6/28/87)
  Acoustic Concert          | most likely from a Geffen Japanese release
  Some songs done for the
  first time live. )
Sound Quality: VG/EX+

    1. You're Crazy                    1. It's So Easy
    2. One in a Million                2. Shadow of Your Love
    3. I Used to Love Her              3. Move to the City
    4. Patience                        4. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
    5. Mr. Brownstone                  5. Whole Lotta Rosie
    6. Move To the City                6. Sweet Child of Mine (studio)

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 .44 Calibre Horticulture ( VOL. 1)
 (All songs from studio practice sessions.)
Sound Quality:

    Side A:                             Side B:
    1. Out Ta Get Me                    1. Paradise City
    2. Rocket Queen I                   2. Move to the City
    3. Rocket Queen II                  3. November Rain (acoustic)
    4. Nightrain                        4. November Rain (piano)
    5. My Michelle                      5. Shadow of Your Love
    6. You're Crazy                     6. Reckless Life

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  No Refrain/Toasted
  Side A: (No Refrain)            Side B: (Toasted: Live in the
                                                        Studio 1989)
Sound Quality:

      1. Jumping Jack Flash             1. November Rain
      2. You're Crazy                   2. Heartbreak Hotel
      3. Reckless Life                  3. Instrumental Jam
      4. Heartbreak Hotel               4. Jumping Jack Flash
      5. Shadow of Your Love            5. Jumping Jack Flash (acoustic)
      6. Welcome to the Jungle          6. Mama Kin
      7. Move to the City
      8. Mama Kin

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One In A Million (on CD)
Side A:                          Side B:
(Famous MTV concert at          (Live at CBGB 10/30/87)
 the RITZ; incomplete)           however, this has better sound)
Sound Quality:

     1. Out Ta Get Me                   1. You're Crazy
     2. Sweet Child Of Mine             2. One in a Million
     3. My Michelle                     3. Used to Love Her
     4. Knockin' on Heaven's Door       4. Patience
     5. Welcome to the Jungle           5. Mr. Brownstone
     6. Nightrain                       6. Move to the City
     7. Paradise City
     8. Mama Kin

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In the Studio  1990-91 Demos (on CD)
Sound Quality:

     Side A:                           Side B:
     1. The Garden                      1. Heartbreak Hotel (Instrumental
     2. Don't Cry                       2. Move to the City (acousic live
     3. Yesterdaze                         with cool adlib intro by the
     4. Sentimental Movie                  entire band.)
     5. Bad Obsession                   3. Too Much Too Soon
     6. Crash Diet                      4. Just Another Sunday
     7. Anything Goes ( Alternate lyr.) 5. Welcome to the Jungle
     8. Bring It Back Home
     9. Back Off Bitch

     * Note: all songs have Axl and Slash/Izzy doing them with a
             drum machine in the background. Unless otherwise noted.

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BRAZIL  
(Recorded live at Maracana Stadium, Rio De Janeiro on January 20, 1991 )
(Note: Tracks 12-13 recorded at FARM AID, Indianapolis on April 7, 1991 )
Sound Quality: very good (VG+)

      (On CD)

      Side A:                              Side B:
       1. Pretty Tied Up                   10. You Could Be Mine
       2. Mr. Brownstone                   11. Civil War
       3. Patience                         Following from Farm Aid III:
       4. Nightrain                        12. Civil War (first time this
       5. Godfather Theme                        song was played live)
       6. Double Talkin' Jive              13. DOWN ON THE FARM (origin.
       7. Welcome to the Jungle                  by a punk band named
       8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door              the UK SUBS)
       9. Drum Solo

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ROCK IN RIO (Double CD) 
Deep Records
Recorded live in Brazil at the Rock-In-Rio 2 festival (Feb. 20, 1991)
(NOTE: * Track 17 is an additional song recorded during a Rolling Stones tour 
where Axl and Izzy join the Stones)
Sound Quality: not good (that's what I'm told)

        Disc A:                               Disc B:
        1. Pretty Tied Up                   10. It's So Easy
        2. Mr. Brownstone                   11. Guitar Solo-Slash
        3. Patience                         12. Civil War
        4. Godfather                        13. Dead Horse
        5. Double Talkin' Jive              14. Sweet Child of Mine
        6. Welcome to the Jungle            15. Estranged
        7. Drumsolo -Matt Sorum             16. Paradise City
        8. You Could Be Mine                17. Salt on the Earth


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Knocking On ROCKERS Door.
Golden Stars Records
(Single CD)
Sound Quality: EX

        MTV show at the RITZ May 1988.  The entire show (slightly edited):

        1. It's So Easy               3:18
        2. Mr. Brownstone             4:25
        3. Out Ta Get Me              4:48
        4. Sweet Child O'Mine         6:44
        5. My Michelle                4:56
        6. Knockin' on Heaven's Door  7:34
        7. Welcome to the Jungle      5:08
        8. Nightrain                  6:14
        9. Paradise City              6:40
        10. Mama Kin                  4:06
        11. Rocket Queen              8:00

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Silver Bullet
(Papillon Records- Italy)
it says recorded at Los Angeles '88 but it is really the 
N.Y. show at the Ritz May 1988:
Sound Quality: excellent (EX+)

        1. It's So Easy
        2. Mr. Brownstone
        3. Out Ta Get Me
        4. Sweet Child O'Mine
        5. My Michelle
        6. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
        7. Welcome to the Jungle
        8. Nightrain
        9. Paradise City
        10. Mama Kin
        11. Rocket Queen

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Slash 'N Burn
(Rare Necessities)
yet another CD of the Ritz show in N.Y. 1988, except
the first two songs are ommited and show is edited
Sound Quality: EX+

        1. Out Ta Get Me
        2. Sweet Child O'Mine
        3. My Michelle
        4. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
        5. Welcome to the Jungle
        6. Nightrain
        7. Paradise City
        8. Mama Kin
        9. Rocket Queen


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For Mother Fuckers Only...live in Indiana (Axl's home state)
(Double CD)..Deer Creek, Indiana, May 28, 1991
Sound Quality:

         Disk 1
         1. Right Next Door To Hell   3:12
         2. Mr. Brownstone            4:46
         3. Bad Obsession             7:15
         4. Dust and Bones            5:46
         5. Double Talkin' Jive       5:12
         6. Patience                  7:35
         7. Civil War                 8:56
         8. Fourteen Years            5:02
         9. Live and Let Die          5:53
         10. It's So Easy             4:17
         11. Drum Solo                4:30
         12. Guitar Solo              3:04
         13. Godfather Theme          1:42
         14. Rocket Queen             7:15

         Disk 2
         1. November Rain             8:08
         2. Only Women Bleed          2:37
         3. Knockin' on Heaven's Door 8:59
         4. Perfect Crime             3:20
         5. Estranged                 10:11
         6. Sweet Child O'Mine        7:50
         7. Welcome to the Jungle     5:15
         8. Paradise City             6:25

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Rockin' (Live in USA) Turn Your Player On (TYPO)
Luxembourg
Description: yet another CD of the famous show at the Ritz in New York 1988;
show is edited
Sound Quality: EX

        1. It's So Easy
        2. Mr. Brownstone
        3. Out Ta Get Me
        4. Sweet Child O'Mine
        5. My Michelle
        6. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
        7. Welcome to the Jungle
        8. Nightrain
        9. Paradise City
        10. Mama Kin
        11. Rocket Queen

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The Jack Daniels Tour 1988
(Golden Stars- Milano, Italy)
Sound Quality: poor

      Labeled as live in Felt Forum NY May 9, 1988 however...
      ** some songs are takend from the Oct. 31st 1987 show at
      the Horizon in LA, the fourth show opening for the Cult

          1.  It's So Easy             3:45
          2.  Move To the City         3:76
          3.  Out Ta Get Me            4:48
          4.  Mr. Brownstone           3:41
          5.  Paradise City            5:28
          6.  My Michelle              4:20
          7.  Sweet Child of Mine      6:04
          8.  Jumping Jack Flash       3:04
          9.  Welcome to the Jungle    5:32
          10. Intro/ You're Crazy      6:07 **
          11. Blues Jam                7:28 **
          12. Nightrain                4:32
          13. Knockin' on Heaven's Door 4:27

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3rd Gig
(Papillon Records- Italy)
Tokyo, Japan (12/10/88?)
The CD says it's a LA show from 1988, but really it's 
the third gig in Japan
Sound quality: excellent (EX+)

	1. You're Crazy
	2. It's So Easy
	3. Move To The City
	4. Mr. Brownstone
	5. Out Ta Get Me
	6. Patience
	7. Rocket Queen
	8. Welcome To The Jungle
	9. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
	10. Sweet Child O' Mine
	11. Used To Love Her
	12. Mama Kin
	13. Paradise City

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Guns N'Roses : The Last American Hero - the last day in L.A. on the first leg
of the tour (before they headed off to Europe).  Sounds like you are sitting in
the midsection around the 25th or so row - occasional people talking, but the
concert at least legible.  Grade : vg+ (6/10).  Time according to box.

     Disc 1.) (Axl Side) :  total time = 61:44
       1. Perfect Crime (2:39)
       2. Mr. Brownstone (4:14)
       3. Live and Let Die (3:19)
       4. Bad Obsession (6:56)
       5. Dust N'Bones (5:14)
       6. Double Talking Jive (5:26)
       7. Civil War (10:45)
       8. Patience (8:42)
       9. You Could Be Mine (5:43)
      10. Welcome to the Jungle (4:53)

     Disc 2.) (Slash Side) : total time = 64:29
       1. Rocket Queen (8:33)
       2. It's So Easy (3:22)
       3. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (10:04)
       4. 14 Years (4:20)
       5. Sweet Child O'Mine (7:41)
       6. Right Next Door to Hell (2:59)
       7. Yesterday (3:11)
       8. November Rain (8:48)
       9. My Michelle (3:39)
      10. Nightrain (5:03)

     Disc 3.) (Izzy Side) : total time = 67:56
       1. Drum Solo/Bass Solo/Guitar Solo ~ Pretty Tied Up (19:58)
       2. You're Crazy (3:25)
       3. Locomotive (8:29)
       4. Outta Get Me (4:18)
       5. Dead Horse (4:59)
       6. Estranged (9:05)
       7. Paradise City (10:36)

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Live... And Let Die
(Swingin' Pigs Records
1991 USA Tour
2-CD
Sound quality: 

1st CD:

     Right Next Door To Hell
     Mr. Brownstone
     Bad Obsession
     Dust N' Bones
     Double Talkin' Jive
     Patience
     Civil War
     14 Years
     Live And Let Die
     It's So Easy

2nd CD:

     Guitar/Drums Solo
     Godfather
     Rocket Queen
     November Rain
     Knockin' On Heaven's Door
     Perfect Crime
     Estranged
     Bad Time / Sweet Child O'Mine
     Welcome To The Jungle
     Paradise City

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GNR CDs containing the show at the Ritz 1988 (shown by MTV); all CDs
of the Ritz show range from EX to EX+ :

    One In A Million (incomplete)
    Knocking on Rockers Door
    Silver Bullet
    Slash N' Burn (incomplete)
    Rockin'

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