

Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 02:21:21 -0500
From: Steven Wheeler <swheeler@lawson.its.utas.edu.au>
To: zeppelin-l@cornell.edu (Digital Graffiti)
Subject: Denton Transcript
Message-ID: <199411210721.SAA02603@lawson.its.utas.edu.au>


Denton, Thursday, November 17, 1994.

AD = Andrew Denton, host of this late night chat/comedy type type show, and
     also the former host of "The Money or The Gun" which each episode 
     featured a different, bewildering choice of person or group of people 
     to cover his favourite song "Stairway To Heaven".  He is the man 
     responsible for the compilation of these, "Stairways To Heaven" which 
     is available on cd and video, and that picture of the short guy with 
     curly hair and glasses on the front is him.
RP = Robert Anthony Plant Esq.
JP = Mr. James Patrick Page
[] = Crowd responses and actions of people involved
<> = Used for similar purposes as []'s.

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AD : Now as you know a huge show tonight, a world exclusive, singing live
     for you tonight on the show, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.  Won't see 
     that anywhere else!  Oh, no siree Bob, they wouldn't even mime it on 
     "Hey Hey".  ...  But first, well, if you haven't heard of Led Zeppelin, 
     check your genitals for weird probe marks, because it probably means 
     you've been abducted by an alien for the last twenty five years.  Along 
     with the Stones and the Beatles, Led Zep are one of the great rock 'n 
     roll acts, responsible for the most amazing song ever written "Stairway 
     To Heaven".  Tonight we have with us, the two men responsible for that 
     song, the driving force behind Led Zep who've got together recently to 
     record their first album in fourteen years, together that is, "No 
     Quarter", an extraordinary album.  Will you please welcome Mr. Robert 
     Plant and Jimmy Page!
[Crowd goes predictably berserk with applause]
[The Denton set is pretty odd, the main room is this space filled with
 faxes, tv's, computers and all sorts of electronic stuff, while the
 adjoining interview room is reached through one of those rotating doors, and
 has some really odd walls.  Three chairs are waiting, and after a brief
 pause Plant and Page appear in the passage leading to the rotating door. 
 Plant is dressed in black with one of those lacey type shirts and black
 jeans and desert boots while Page is wearing somewhat baggy blue jeans and a
 white t-shirt bearing the slogan "Recovering Catholic".  Page and Plant
 walk into differing sides of the rotating door in a semi-amusing display
 of unco-ordination, however they do both get through eventually.]
RP: Hello, how are you?
AD: Welcome aboard!
[They all shakes hands and Jimmy bows as he shakes Denton's hand, giving me
 the impression he was a little intoxicated the way he did it.  The room has
 three chairs, two beside each other and one at a slightly different angle
 for the interviewer.  Jimmy picks the one furthest away and as he sits down
 slips...]
JP: Whoops! <chuckles>
[Meanwhile the crowd finally stops clapping, while some moron in the
 audience insists on yelling out "Jimmy!" a few times]
RP: That's it then!
AD: That's it, it's over now.  Thanks very much, that was fabulous, will you 
    please thank Robert Plant and Jimmy Page!
[Page, Plant and Denton stand up, shake hands and make like are about to
 leave but sit down again, crowd still applauding like mad, then finally
 stops]
AD: It's so nice to meet you after all these years, you've been in my head
    all this time, you know that?
RP: Yeah, I could feel it.
AD: Yeah, it's been a quite a scary thing.  You... "No Quarter", let's talk
    about "No Quarter" - you've recorded a lot of this in Morocco with Gnouai
    tribesmen.  How do you get together?  Does you agent call their agent?  
    How does that work?
RP: <chuckles> I knew a girl in a restaurant in Marrakesh...
AD: I love stories that start like that.
RP: And basically, one situation led to another, to another, to another. 
    And this group were playing in the restaurant, they were amazing, really
    like happening music, and they were just playing to people who were like
    sort of going <hunches over mimicing someone with extreme indigestion> "I
    think I must go home now" - they had Moroccan tummy!  And these people 
    were playing and they were brilliant.  And we couldn't find anybody else 
    who'd play with us, so I called the restaurant...
AD: You couldn't find anybody else who'd play with you?  Is he telling the
    truth Jimmy?
RP: It's been a lean ten years!
AD: Oh, has it really now?
RP: Yeah, yeah, it has.
AD: I'm sure it has.  How hard is it actually writing music with people who
    are like diammetrically culturally different to you, they don't speak 
    your language, they probably don't have a single Led Zeppelin album in 
    their collection.
RP: Yeah, they don't have a collection.
AD: They don't even have a collection, well there you go!  How hard is it
    working with them?
RP: We were really lucky weren't we?  <turns to Jimmy>
JP: Yeah.  <sits there grinning at the audience as Plant resumes talking>
RP: We just went into a courtyard, sat down with them, there was all this
    kind of incense and stuff sort of floating around.  In fact it was a 
    bit like Woodstock was way back.  And we just started playing with 
    them and...  We had these visions ya know?  It was remarkable actually, 
    it was really good, it didn't take very long at all.
AD: Where can I get some of that incense from actually?
RP: Well, judging by what happened last time we were here I'm not going to 
    tell you!
AD: What did happen to you last time you were here?
RP: It's my attention span.  <clicks fingers>
AD: Oh I see, yes, no, I understand.  [To audience]  Will you please welcome
    Mr. Robert Plant, I'm just reminding him of who he is here.  And this is
    Jimmy Page at your right.
[Plant and Page shake hands]
RP: <To Jimmy>  Oh hi.  Look, he's a recovering catholic! <Points at Jimmy's 
    t-shirt>
AD: Actually, we have some footage of you playing with the gnaoui tribesmen
    in that very square let's check it out, let's get a feel for it.
[Footage from "Unledded" - "Wah Wah"]
AD: Looks like a fantastic experience.  Now...
RP: I must say, there's surprisingly few women in that clip.
AD: Now why would that be?
RP: I can't imagine where they all went.  I think they were in the caravan
    with Rex our tour manager.  Yeah, it was an amazing night in Marrakesh.
AD: Because, you said you'd like to perform with...
RP: <To audience>  These are not all innuendoes you know!  Some of this is
    true!
AD: This is not Julian Clary here you know!  You've said you'd like to
    perform with...  <Robert uncrosses his legs, recrosses them the other
    way, sits up and pouts in the manner of Julian Clary>  Ooh, maybe it is!
    ...with Moroccan trance singers who can teach you how to cut yourself
    but you don't feel it?
RP: Well, the Djallala [Assumed spelling!] they, there's all these different
    forms of music in Morocco and North Africa and really repet...  <Looks 
    at Page>  Why am I doing all the talking here?
AD: I was about to say...
JP: Because he keeps asking you the questions.
AD: No it's not that, I'm terribly sorry.
JP: Ok.
[Page and Plant stand up and swap chairs so that now Page is next to Denton,
 Denton stands up and offers Page his seat!]
JP: <gestures for Denton to sit down>  No, no, no, no!
AD: Tell me about the Moroccan trance singers.
JP: <brief pause>  Well, we'd heard stories about the Djujuka [Assumed
    spelling!] tribespeople and when they bring in the rites of Spring, you
    know, p-p-penathian feast, which just goes on for days and days, there's
    stories of them smashing bowls over their heads, <gestures to indicate 
    the method of bowl diassembly> starting to bleed and then the next day, 
    there's not a scar or mark of anything!
RP: It's a bit like your wet t-shirt competitions in the pubs around here.
JP: <grinning> Yeah, it is.
AD: Oh, this is the 90's, we don't have those any more, we've moved on
    <Plant leans forward look of disbelief on his face>, we have wet brain
    contests instead.
RP: <Looks at Denton's hair>  Yeah, I can see that!
AD: Thank you very much. <smoothes back hair>  It's gel actually!
RP: I think the deal is, if you repeat anything long enough, something
    happens to you that doesn't normally happen, and the whole mantric 
    thing with Moroccan and North African music is the repetition of the 
    rhythm, the riff, and the whole thing goes round and round like, you're 
    probably more familiar with it in Haiti?
AD: Yeah, that's where the Americans... No, actually, the shamans in Tibet
    do the same thing where they work themselves into this state where they
    believe they can see ghosts. 
RP: Yeah.  We were only there for about two hours so we only got a certain
    amount of it.  Just enough for two songs!
AD: Well, you said that the music you did in Morocco is about as far away
    from George Michael as you can get.  Has this been a career ambition 
    for you?
[Page and Plant look at each other grinning, obviously deciding who'll
 answer]
RP: Well, a friend of mine's got his coat, it's this sort of powdered blue,
   [something, sounded like worcestered] um...  We're on our way anyway.  
   If we can just find a chorus now we'll have a hit!
AD: Jimmy, one thing that amazes me, the double necked guitars, and also the
    triple neck guitars, I don't see how it works because you can only play 
    one at a time?
JP: I know, I know, but not in Morocco, maybe maybe you can visualize more
    there?
AD: Oh I see, it's just a state? <grins>
JP: No, they're in different tunings, that's what it is.  It's not that
    technical believe me.
AD: Because I've often wondered if it's actually a show business thing or if
    it's the real thing?
JP: No, it's the real thing.
AD: So you really do...
JP: Sure, sure.  Actually, I'm getting one made up with eight necks and I'm
    going to get a wheelwright to make a big rim around it and then I can do
    cartwheels off the stage! <gestures to describe all this>
AD: Now that is rock and roll!
JP: <Grinning>  Yeah, I think so.
AD: Of course, on "No Quarter", you've got, you've reworked a number of Zep
    classics, you've got "Kashmir", "Four Sticks", "Gallows Pole", but there 
    is one classic that's not there...
RP: <grinning>  I think you've flogged it to death already.
AD: I think flogged is an unfair term.
RP: No, I like the word flogged.
AD: I think... that's very British Conservative Party of you Robert!  I
    think that's an unfair thing, we...
RP: I don't like David Mellor, but I like the word flogged! <sly grin>
AD: We paid tribute to this song.  And I'd just like to remind you...
RP: Tribute?  I thought you were on a royalty?
AD: No I wasn't, that's how stupid I was!  I wasn't on a royalty!  No, no,
    I just want to remind you of the tribute we paid.  Feast your eyes.
[Several clips show from "Stairways To Heaven" with Page and Plant overlayed
 so we could see their recations]
1st Clip : Rolf Harris - Page and Plant watch with the hint of grin.
2nd Clip : Beatnix (Australian Beatles Tribute Group) - Page and Plant both
           grinning.
3rd Clip : Nick Barker And The Reptiles (Australian hard rock group)
RP: Oh yeah!  I love that, whoo-hoo yeah!  <makes fist>  Are they still in
    the business?
4th Clip : Doug Anthony Allstars (Australian anarchic comedy team) - Page
           and Plant grin as "the lady" is finally revealed as Miss. Shirley 
           Bassey!
5th Clip : Friends Of The Castanet Club (Weird looking people dressed as
           pirates tapping out rhythm with walking canes on leg of a stool)
           - Page and Plant crack up.
6th Clip : Leonard Teale (Recently deceased Australian, actor, orator) -
           Page and Plant no-longer overlayed so no reaction could be noted.
AD: What more tribute could we pay?
JP: Thank you.
RP: I think you missed the best one.
AD: Which was that?
RP: The fat Elvis.  I thought he was fantastic!
AD: No sooner do you say it than here it is in front of your very eyes.
RP: Where is he?  Is he here?  <looks around studio>
[Clip of Neil Pepper, fat Elvis impersonator, doing his rendition is shown
 while Plant groans with disappointment that he is not win the studio, both
 are grinning at this particular rendition, complete with weird dancing from
 the "fat Elvis"]
AD: Now, why is that your favourite?
RP: Well, when I was a kid I used to hide behind the curtains at home at
    Christmas and I used to try and be Elvis.  There was a certain ambience
    between the curtains and the French windows, there was a certain sound 
    there for a ten year old.
AD: Oh, right.
RP: That was all the ambience I got at ten years old... I think!  And I
    always wanted to be a certain, a bit similar to that.  But I didn't want 
    to sell pizza.
AD: It's so easy to be Elvis now of course, it's just... <Denton lies back
    rigid in his chair doing an amusing impression of a corpse>
RP: Yeah, I know, I've been watching some of your tv!
AD: Now tell me the truth, the truth.  When Rolf Harris went to the top of
    the charts in England with "Stairway To Heaven", what did you think?  
    That this was a sign of the antichrist?
RP: You know they wouldn't...  Oh no!  Some of my best childhood memories
    have been watching Rolf!
AD: Wow!
RP: Yeah.  You know, they wouldn't release that in America because there was
    such disdain, everybody was absolutely furious.
AD: Really?
RP: Yeah, there was a lot of a... don't worry Rolf, just keep on snoring
    back there!
AD: What did you guys think?  Were you furious or amused?
[Page and Plant look at each other, again obviously deciding who was going
 to reply]
JP: I didn't really hear it...  <Plant, Denton and the audience erupt with
    laughter>  No, I tell you the truth.  It was when I got a whole, I
    didn't know it had gone to the top of the charts, I was in Bourne [?]
    at the time working, but I did get a whole set of clips of all that and 
    I thought it was hilarious.
RP: I think he's great, Rolf.
JP: Yeah, 'course he is!
RP: I don't don't care what he, you know...
JP: Plus, he can do "Jake The Pig" and we can't!
AD: That's one for the new album!  Before we go, Robert, I have to ask you,
    what does "If there's a bustle in your hedgerow" mean?
RP: You've got me over a barrel now, or under a barrel!
AD: I never touched a barrel!
JP: Not yet.  <said quietly to Robert>
RP: Shall I tell them the?  No, no, I won't tell you the Freudian thing. 
    What it is, it's the beginning of Spring, it's when the birds make their
    nests, when hope and the new year begins.  And it's nothing to do with 
    any of that weird stuff stuff you read about in America!
AD: Oh right, so... <seemed genuinely impressed>
RP: It's the beginning of the new year.
[At this point there is a brief pause and some moron in the audience yells
 his question at Jimmy]
AD: Thank god, now we all know.  Now you're going to play for us tonight,
    what are you going to play?
RP: If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, yeah.
AD: Excellent!
RP: In F!
[Guy in audience again, "Jimmy, what's your symbol mean?"]
JP: <turns to audience> Eh?
AD: What was that?
[Guy again, "What's the symbol mean on IV?"]
AD: <turns to Jimmy> The symbol.
JP: <obviously thinks the guy is referring to his t-shirt and seems a bit
    mystified as to why>  Recovering catholic?
RP: <seems to grasp what the guy is yelling, or is he referring to Jimmy's
    t-shirt?>  It means "frying tonight".  <Plant is sitting there with a
    wry smile on his face, so I'd say he understood the question from way 
    up the back of the audience somewhere>
JP: Oh, that's right, oh I see.
AD: Thank you very much for that question from the audience!
JP: Yes, sorry we don't answer all those.
AD: Will you please thank Robert Plant and Jimmy Page!
[The interview concludes]

After a commercial break or two, another interview and some random goofy
type stuff, Page and Plant re-appear to play "Black Dog".  Page in
particular is _really_ hilarious, doing all the weird stage moves you'd
expect to see at a 1972 vintage concert, the funny low down walk with the
guitar, the lay back riffing, the funny lip thing that's sort of like a
pout.  And oh yeah, this is totally gross, but at one point he is drooling
all over the place.  I am NOT kidding!  Watch it again folks!  At one point
he has this 10cm long thing of slobber hanging off his bottom lip!!!  Yeah,
this is deadset, fair-dinkum true, I was laughing so hard I was having
trouble staying on my chair.  This is really funny, what with Page strutting
all over the place dribbling, and Plant doing a bit of strutting too.  There
were three backing musicians, all aboriginal, one on drums and two digeridoo
players.  It was quite interesting, and I quite liked it, although the
immense amount of distortion on Plant's voice sounded a little weird. 
Overall, not bad though, but I can see why Zep never made many tv
appearances.  After they finish playing Denton walks over waving around a
copy of the "No Quarter" cd and invites them to take his musical challenge. 
This is where the guest musical acts each episode has to play a song they
wouldn't normally play, something really offbeat and bizarre usually, which
they choose from a barrel.  Denton has stocked the barrel on this occasion
with 50 Rolf Harris songs!  Jimmy reaches in and draws "Sun Arise".  Denton
asks them to do it, Plant says "Not if I can help it!" but then gives in,
agreeing to play it "For Rolf!".  That way Plant says "Rolf" sounds quite
funny, must be his accent, plus he says it in a very childlike sort of way. 
At the end of the show, they do indeed play "Sun Arise"!  Really cool it was
too, I particularly enjoyed it and as the credits are rolling they are still
playing.  Then as the credits are about to finish, Jimmy starts off on some
really neat blues solo and they segue back into "Black Dog" - "Hey baby,
pretty baby...!"

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All in all, a very cool episode.  Both of them were laid back and funny,
especially Plant, who was very playful, and managed to drag women into just
about every topic they discussed.  Pagey was pretty fidgety and as I suspect
a little intoxicated, that drooling was just plain gross!  Anyway, hope you
like the transcript, took me quite a while to put together.

Regards,

Steve.


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 02:30:27 -0500
From: Steven Wheeler <swheeler@lawson.its.utas.edu.au>
To: zeppelin-l@cornell.edu (Digital Graffiti)
Subject: Addition to Transcript
Message-ID: <199411210730.SAA02729@lawson.its.utas.edu.au>

Oh yeah, one other thing I forgot to put in there, in "Black Dog" I noticed
that Jimmy walked ove rto his amp and cranked it up a bit in the middle of
the song.  Perhaps he underestimated the noice the digeridoos would be
making?

Regards,

Steve.


