(241) Tue 25 Nov 97 9:26 By: Steve Hayes To: All Re: East Asian religions atheistic? St: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ @EID:af93 23794b40 @PID: SX 4.3 SA-23012 @MSGID: 5:7107/9 898be334 @TID: GE 1.11+ Several people have made remarks to the effect that east Asian religions are atheistic. It's a bit of an over generalisation. Kuan Ti: the god of war. In almost every Chinese house there is an altar on the wall containing a picture of Kuan Ti, the red-faced god of war. It always faces the entrance, for demons and evil spirits do not dare to enter into his presence. He is the greatest and most powerful god in the pantheon. Prior to his deification, Kuan Ti was a historical figure who lived from AD 162-220. He was a mighty warrior. In about AD 184 there had been a peasant rebellion against the Han dynasty. The rebels were called Yellow Turbans from the scarves they tied round their heads. The empire was in chaos, and was effectively ruled by a succession of warlords, and was divided into three kingdoms, Wei in the north, Wu in the south and Shu in the west. Kuan Yu, whose original name was Yun-chang, had been outlawed, but formed a force in the service of general Yuan Shao with two "brothers", the senior of whom was Liu Pei. In a time of shifting loyalties, he was admired for his loyalty to Liu Pei. It was the fusion of "might" and "right" that led to his deification. He was betrayed and beheaded, and his spirit appeared to a Buddhist priest who instructed him in the law. In the 7th century his cult was adopted by the Buddhists Source: Chamberlain (1987:47). Pak Tai: Emperor of the North. Pak Tai is sometimes confused with Kuan Ti because they do much the same job in heaven. In order to fit him into the Taoist scheme whereby gods achieve their place in heaven through a prior earthly existence, there have been several biographies. He is said to have lived around 2000 BC, and most of the stories of him have the same elements - warer, bare feet, and a sudden transference to heaven. There is less divergence about what he did there. Two monsters, a tortoise and a snake, were ravaging the earth. Pak Tai was placed at the head of the heavenly armies and sent to earth to subdue them. Barefoot, his hair flowing over his shoulders, and wearing a long black robe, Pak Tai destroyed the monsters. He flung them down a huge chasm in Szechuan, which is regarded as the mouth of hell. On his return he was made first lord of heaven. Source: Chamberlain (1987:56). The Purple Planet. The Purple Planet is the Pole Star which, because of its fixity in the heavens was an image of imperial stability. His image acts as a defence against evil spirits. Like all ancient civilizations the Chinese posited a relationship between the order of society and the harmony of the heavens. Yellow and purple were regarded as complementary colours. He is shown as a bald man riding a green tiger, though it looks more like a Pekinese dog. Source: Chamberlain (1987) 62ff). +----------------------------------------------------------------+ |Steve Hayes PO Box 7648 Pretoria 0001 South Africa | | Internet: steveh@khanya.bbs.co.za | | Fidonet: 5:7106/20.1 FamilyNet: 8:79/42.1 RIME: 5622 | | Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734 | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ ... Reality - an illusion caused by mescaline deficiency - N.F. Simpson --- GEcho/386 1.11+ * Origin: Fast! BBS, Sandton, RSA * USR V34 * [706-1749] (5:7107/9) SEEN-BY: 12/12 218/890 1001 270/101 353/250 396/1 3615/50 51 3804/180 @PATH: 7107/9 270/101 396/1 3615/50 218/1001