(4) Thu 1 May 97 8:52 By: Christopher Baker To: All Re: Randigram - more Uri St: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ @EID:6455 22a14680 Delivered-To: majordomo-jrefinfo-real-outgoing@redhotmomma.ssr.com Delivered-To: jrefinfo-outgoing@ssr.com Date: 1 May 1997 06:47:21 -0000 From: James Randi --- Wizard To: Broadcast-JREFInfo@ssr.com Subject: Error.... Sender: owner-jrefinfo@ssr.com Reply-To: James Randi --- Wizard [IMPORTANT NOTE: Please do not send reports of problems with the mailing list to Randi without at least CC'ing them to owner-JREFInfo@ssr.com, preferably with full headers. There is nothing Randi can do to fix problems and if you don't send reports to the administrative address, it just makes them harder to fix. We'd like to add our apologies to Randi's and ask that you send any duplicates to this message that you receive to owner-JREFInfo@ssr.com. Thanks!] SORRY! Alright, already! Notices have been pouring in here that you received three copies of one of my recent postings. Sincere regrets. I often get multiple postings, myself, and it's a nuisance. I'm looking into the problem right now. And, many of you pointed out that thos miraculous crystals that are said to have been buried at the goalposts at the instructions of Uri Geller to save the Exeter team from defeat, would of course work the opposite way when the teams switched ends at half-time. My understanding was that there were "tuned" crystals at BOTH ends, so this is a moot point. These mysterious powers take years of study and self-denial to master, you know. And, as a good friend points out to me, it's hardly sporting to call in occult forces to help a team. It's supposed to be strength, skill, stamina, and determination that win football games, isn't it? I'd say that using witchcraft is simply CHEATING! However, judging from the effects that Mr. Geller has been having on U.K. football, the "cursed" teams don't have to worry much. In fact, these magical charms seem to work the wrong way around.... Hmmmmm. We in the USA can hardly point a finger of accusation. We're just as naive. Teams here actually have chaplains who invoke prayers to various gods to bring victory. What a dither the deities must be in, trying to decide whose plea is the more deserving! But hey, the god business is a tough one. I'm now told that a character on the tedious soap opera "Melrose Place" had a succinct comment on Mr. Geller recently. I'll report on that as soon as I've seen the episode. I'm not a watcher of that sort of material, but I'm amused to know that even these dippy characters have opinions on such stuff. I'm also informed that Mr. Geller is still claiming that Stanford Research Institute validated his powers. Not according to Stanford Research Institute. But what would they know? And, the recent lawsuit brought by Mr. Geller against me, in which his colorful lawyer suggested to the judge that he issue an order for "the confinement of James Randi," has been summarily dismissed. Gee, with football and with lawsuits, Mr. Geller just seems to have no success at all! James Randi James Randi Educational Foundation 201 SE Davie Blvd., Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316-1815 U.S.A. phone: +1 954 467 1112 fax: +1 954 467 1660 http://www.randi.org ********************************************************************* SUBSCRIBING/UNSUBSCRIBING/CHANGE OF ADDRESS ********************************************************************** Requests to be added to or deleted from the JREFInfo mailing list, must be sent to the service address: Internet: JREFInfo-request@ssr.com PLEASE BE PATIENT. All requests are processed before each new mailing to the list and these can be widely spaced. 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Sender: owner-jrefinfo@ssr.com Reply-To: James Randi --- Wizard I'LL BET MR. GELLER IS ANNOYED.... You may remember the former psychic superstar, Uri Geller. Well, just as we were losing memory of him here in the USA, a major TV special aired that referred to him as a "con man," and showed -- quite clearly -- what I have always supported as the probable modus operandi of the spoon-bending miracle as performed by Mr. Geller. Unless, that is, he really does it by supernatural means, as he has so often claimed. One wonders what Mr. Geller thinks of this latest commentary on his claims... Simultaneously with this item, there arrived on my screen a notice that this last weekend (26th April) one of the UK football teams, Chester City, played Exeter. Chester were clear favorites to win, so Exeter, I'm told, contacted Geller for some magical help. Ever eager to show his wondrous powers, he sent them some crystals which, if placed behind the goals, he felt would prevent Chester from scoring. At half-time it seemed that Geller's charm just might be working, with Exeter holding a 1:0 lead. What then went wrong with the spell is unknown, but by full-time Chester had overcome this baleful crystalline influence and stormed on to a 5:1 victory, which, I'm told, is an incredibly high score in football. An explanation has not yet been forthcoming from the spell-caster, but you can be assured that it will be interesting! Those of you who remember Geller at all may recall that he was once working his wonders with the Reading football club; they promptly went to the bottom of the league and stayed there. I've often said that if a physician were in business for 25 years, and every one of his patients died, it might be time for him/her to consider a different line of work..... 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