Good to hear a light-hearted report ( http://www.stbbs.com/personal/frice/mantrack.htm ). Please don't get me wrong here - I love the US and have many American friends - but you do seem to suffer from an appalling number of lunatics in your society - over here (England) they are insignificant enough to ignore, but I gather that across the pond they actually have a small amount of influence. I can't offer any advice.....I'd like to think I was a pacifist, but conversation with creationists makes me think that extreme violence is the only acceptable solution, however, since that's illegal, I usually just get rat-arsed and laugh some more..... Regards Gareth Edwards B.Sc M.Sc. (Ph. D.) Student University of Manchester England