
By: J.J. Hitt
To: Andrew Conner
Re: Re: Morality

 AC>        The Items that JJ truly enjoys.  hee hee hee (Joke)

 JH> meat, white bread, wine, sexual excess, tobacco, spices, coffee,
 JH> cream, molasses, honey, uncleanliness, warm food, fish, beer,
 JH> distilled liquor, masturbation, mustard, tea, butter, soup, sugar,
 JH> stuffy rooms and sedentary habits.

 Not true. I've never cared for stuffy rooms.

 AC> How would you explain section 87 D&C

 The Civil War thing?

 With the greatest of pleasure.....

 FALSE PROPHESY NUMBER 13 ...  December 25, 1832.  DOCTRINE AND
 COVENANTS, Section 87:1-8.

 (1) Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly
 come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will
 eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
 (2) And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all
 nations, beginning at this place.
 (3) For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the
 Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations,
 even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also
 call on other nations, in order to defend themselves against other
 nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.
 (4) And it shall come to pass after many days, slaves shall rise up
 against their masters, who shall be marshalled and disciplined for war.
 (5) And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of
 the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry
 and shall vex the gentiles with a sore vexation.
 (6) And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the
 earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the
 thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the
 inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation,
 and chastening hand of an Almighty God until the consumption decreed
 hath made a full end of all nations.
 (7) That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall
 cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth
 to be avenged of their enemies.
 (8) Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day
 of the Lord come; for behold it cometh quickly, saith the Lord.  Amen.

        ---

 Joseph Smith received the above revelation on Christmas day, 1832.
 History records that the State of South Carolina was already in a state
 of rebellion at that time.  It's not much to prophesy about something
 that is already happening.  South Carolina, in it's Ordinance of
 Nulification, had already threatened to leave the Union in the month
 BEFORE Smith's Prophecy. In fact, South Carolina had been a royal pain
 in the ass since Dec 19, 1928 (four years before the prophecy) when
 they declared the right of state nulification of federal laws.

 Mormons usually refer to the "Civil War" as one of the prophecies that
 has been fulfilled, however, upon close examination it becomes very
 clear that it is a failure.  There are 20 different elements of this
 prophecy.  All 20 elements would have to come to pass in order for this
 prophecy to be fulfilled.

 History records that the Civil War did not start until April 12, 1861,
 (more than 28 years later, not "shortly") when Southern artillery
 shelled Fort Sumter in the harbor of Charleston, South Carolina.  It
 ended four years later on April 9, 1865.  The Civil War did not result
 in war being poured out upon all nations (verse 3).  It also did not
 bring about "...a full end of all nations."

 Also conspicously missing are the earthquakes and "feirce and vivid
 lightning". Can you name a single earthquake that had an effect on the
 outcome of the Civil War?

 It is also interesting to note that the Civil War prophecy was not
 published during Joseph Smith's lifetime.  It was not printed until
 1851 (19 years after Joseph Smith received it).


