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                [Originally] compiled by David Schuetz
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                  With help from all over the world!

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The FAQ is broken down into four sections, as follows:

        Section 1 - General Information
                      The first section is general information, and
		      includes stuff like Echoes subscription procedures,
		      lists of tour personnel, set lists, etc.

        Section 2 - The Early Years
                      The second section covers their "early years," that
		      is, Piper through Obscured by Clouds.

        Section 3 - The Glory Years
                      The third section is the "glory years" (and any
		      discussion regarding this time frame *not* being
		      the time of their greatest glory will be ignored).
		      This section covers DSOTM through the Wall.

        Section 4 - After the Wall, Solo Albums, and Other Stuff

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Section 4 - After the Wall, Solo Albums, and Other Stuff

01.  "Problems with the _Final_Cut_ CD."
02.  "There's a lyric on _The_Final_Cut_ which isn't sung!"
03.  "I heard an extra verse to 'Running Shoes' in concert.  What was it?"
04.  "Why is Yoko Ono mentioned in 'Pros and Cons'?"
05.  "What does the morse code on _Radio_KAOS_ say?"
06.  "What is the 'Lost Verse' to 'The Tide is Turning'?"
07.  "Who is having that pilot/tower conversation in 'Learning to Fly'?"
08.  "Differences between the US & UK Pros & Cons Lyrics Sheets"
09.  "What were the original lyrics to Amused to Death?"
10.  "What's the backwards message in 'Perfect Sense' say?"
11.  "What does the title 'Amused to Death' refer to?"
12.  "Just how much money does Floyd make, anyway?"
13.  "Didn't They Get In A Crash And Nearly Mangle Themselves To Death?"
14.  "What is said at the very beginning/end of Radio KAOS?"
15.  "What do the Arabic words in "Late Home Tonight" mean?"
16.  "Who or what is/was Fassbinder?"
17.  "What's all this about poppies?"
18.  "Who were Alf Razzell and Bill Hubbard?" 
19.  "What do the colored stripes on the TFC cover represent?"
20.  "What's the backwards message in 'Perfect Sense' say?"
21.  "What is Richard Wright's current status with the band?"

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01.  "Problems with the _Final_Cut_ CD."

There have been several reported problems with the CD of TFC, all of
which deal with where the title track begins.  The three versions we've
been able to isolate have the following "features":

	1. "The Final Cut" begins 3/4 the way through Southampton Dock.

	2. "The Final Cut" starts before he finishes with "...cut"at
	   the end of Southhampton Dock. (CBS)

	3. "The Final Cut" begins during the words "through the fish
	   eyed lens.." (Harvest)

And a note relating to this from Graham Williams:

   For some reason, when I play _The_Final_Cut_....am unable to "Fast
   Forward" through a track.  I get errors back from the drive.  I
   can fast forward through every other CD I have tried, except this
   one.  (By Fast Forward I mean skip some number of seconds and then
   sample the track, then skip some other number of seconds.)  Any
   one else noticed this, or even have an explanation?


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02.  "There's a lyric on _The_Final_Cut_ which isn't sung!"

This was noticed just recently, and basically surprised everyone that
they hadn't noticed it before (I know *I* was surprised).  In "Your
Possible Pasts," there is the following stanza:

   By the cold and religious we were taken in hand
   Shown how to feel good and told to feel bad.
>  Tongue tied and terrified we learned how to pray
>  Now our feelings run deep and cold as the clay.
   And strung out behind us the banners and flags 
   Of our possible pasts lie in tatters and rags. 

The two lines with ">" on them were not sung on the album.  Apparently,
these lines appear on the US LP and CD lyrics, but not on the UK copies.


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03.  "I heard an extra verse to 'Running Shoes' in concert.  What was it?"

Well, it's not on the album, and since ROIO's aren't always all that great,
it's hard to be sure exactly what the lyrics were.  But here's a pretty
close approximation:

    Ooh Babe, where ya been?
    You bring back the feeling
    the flavor of damp teenage skin
    and hot afternoons by the river
    spent crushing the clover
    I said "Lie down, roll over
    I wanna go back there again"
    Oh baby, sweet Fassbinder lady
    ooh, where ya been?


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04.  "Why is Yoko Ono mentioned in 'Pros and Cons'?"

[From a posting by Marshall Wood:]

  Regarding Yoko Ono, I read an interview with Roger somewhere where
  he said that those lyrics had been inspired by a dream that the
  drummer on the album had had (that would be Andy Newmark, I guess?).
  In Andy's dream, said Roger, he was standing on the wing of an
  airplane ("standing on the leading edge, the eastern seaboard spread
  before my eyes") and Yoko Ono was telling him to jump.  Personally,
  I don't tell people when I have dreams like this...    :-)

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05.  "What does the morse code on _Radio_KAOS_ say?"

The cover is pretty easy to decipher--it says:

ROGER WATERS RADIO KAOS WHO NEEDS INFORMATION THE POWERS THAT BE HOME
THE TIDE IS TURNING RADIO WAVES


The morse code at the beginning and end of the album, however, is
harder to decipher, and supposedly contains a deleted verse from "The
Tide is Turning."

Here's some information from Douglas Whisler:

  I only have part of it, where there is little or no other music with it.

  Explanation:	'.' is a dot, '_' is a dash,
         '|' is a 'space' between letters
         '?' is a place where there may or may not be an intended 'space'
         '/' is where the start and end 'cuts' are.
	'()' is parts where I start to lose it.


  Start: /..|-|..-|.--|-.|..|-.|--.|...|-.?--|(.-..)

  End:   --|.-|-.-.|....|---|-...|..-|.-..|.-..|...|....|..|-|.-|-.|-..|
         --|.|-..|..|---|-.-.|.-.|..|-|-.--|---|....|-|..|-.-|.|..?../


  No appologies to those who are too lazy to decode it from here.

  I kinda think the "-.-" on the last line would make more sense as "-.." 
  but that's the way I read it.  (note the ../ spliced to the /.. makes a ....)

  There are about 6 more places (mostly in tracks 3 and 4) where I still
  haven't been able to separate the morse from the music.

[So, does anyone actually *know* morse code?  I've looked in all my
reference books, and even my old Novice radio exam book (which I never
did take, BTW) doesn't have it.  I certainly don't remember enough to
read the above... -djs]

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06.  "What is the 'Lost Verse' to 'The Tide is Turning'?"

There was supposed to be another verse to this song, but it was removed 
because Waters was worried about lawsuits.  He did, however, sing it during 
some live concerts [which I have not been able to verify, due to lack of a 
decent ROIO of the KAOS tour].  The lyrics are:

  Now the past is over but you are not alone
  Together we'll fight Sylvester Stallone
  We will not be dragged down in his South China Sea
  of macho bullshit and mediocrity

This is also who Waters refers to later in the song when he sings "The
tide is turning, Sylvester."


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07.  "Who is having that pilot/tower conversation in 'Learning to Fly'?"

That's Nick Mason, who recently received a pilot's license.  I believe
that David Gilmour is his co-pilot.  The conversation is an actual 
conversation between Nick and the tower, during one of his first solo 
flights.


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08.  "Differences between the US & UK Pros & Cons Lyrics Sheets"

There are some differences between the respective lyrics sheets.  For one
thing, the British version has the characters who say each bit listed, but 
the CBS version does not. This is from a posting by Dave Cowl:

Type of difference	British	EMI		US/Japan CBS

Extra			Surgeon:"Drill"         drill 
			Man:"Oh God!"		Wake up..	

Extra			Wife:"What border?      Uh, what border
			Go back to sleep"

Extra bit after Arabs	Arab:"Don't cut the 	
with knives		woman Mohammed, 
			I want the woman"

Extra line		You've got to admit 
			it was wrong what 
			you did.

Difference		oder drinken Mehr Ha..	oder drinken bier, ha..

Extra from Clerk	Room Clerk:"Goodnight
Keys bit		Sir"

Extra in Stay with Me!	Woman:"No...I'm sleeping"
Bit

Lost bit		4 lines of Sexual 
			Revolution Missing

Extra						(Thunder)

Difference		And trailed our..	And we trailed our..

Extra			..gets two presents" 
			(Man pauses to light 
			a joint)

Difference		Jump says Yoko 		Jump says Yoko Ono
			"Oh No!..

Extra			Trucker:"Hey ...Turn 
			the fucking Juke Box 
			Down"

Difference		In the company of has 	In the company of 
			beens In bent backs  	has beens and bent
			In sleeping		backs and sleeping


			Under tube trains in    Under tube trains and
			commuter accidents	commuter accidents

Difference		On loading ramps	On unloading ramps

Difference		Then the moment of	And the moment of 
			clarity.		clarity

I thought this would be of interest. The most amusing part is that in the
music book, the listed lyrics are the British ones, but the words against
the music are the CBS lyrics. Weird, huh!
 

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09.  "What were the original lyrics to Amused to Death?"

Some time ago, Penthouse magazine printed an interview with Roger Waters
in which some lines of "Amused to Death" were printed.  The lyrics
survived unchanged to the release of the album, so there's nothing
special to report here.


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10.  "What's the backwards message in 'Perfect Sense' say?"

It's really (REALLY) difficult to decipher.  I've managed to sample this
thing into my computer (but with some distortion since I was connecting 
a line out into a microphone in, but that's another story).  [if anyone's
got a good 44.1kHz stereo 16-bit sample, I'd love to see it!]  Anyway,
here's what I've been able to decipher, so far [along with further 
information from Piet de Bondt]:

  July [pause] however [pause] in the light and visions
  of the [very soft] issues of sterling [pause], we have
  changed our minds.  We have decided to include a backward
  message [pause] Stanley [pause] for you [pause] and all
  the other [dramatic pause] geek partners.
  [pause] [very loud, noisy, screamed sentence] 
  [end of song (well, actually the beginning, but we're 
  backwards, now, remember?)]



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11.  "What does the title 'Amused to Death' refer to?"

Television.  Specifically, a book by Neil Postman, called
"Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business."

It's apparently a very well-received book, and worth reading.  Publishing 
information, for anyone interested:

  (cloth: New York: Viking,  1985; ISBN: 0670804541)
  (paper: New York: Penguin, 1986; ISBN: 0140094385)


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12.  "Just how much money does Floyd make, anyway?"

It really depends.  The MLOR tour made LOTS of money, as you can see
below.  The Wall thour, however, lost money in a big way.  And, as
happens to many mega-successful entertainers, the Floyd have made
their share of bad investments.  The list & short article that follows
at least gives an indication of at least what league they're in.

(taken from Forbes magazine)

                                            GROSS INCOME     2YEAR TOTAL
    RANK                                      89     88      
1989   1988  Star/age                        ---------million $---------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1       1    Michael Jackson/31                65    60         125
2       3    S.Speilberg/41                    64    41         105
3       2    B.Cosby/52                        60    35         95
4       8    Mike Tyson/23                     26    45         71
5       6    Charles Schulz/66                 28    32         60
6       5    Eddie Murphy/28                   22    35         57
7      19    Pink Floyd (3 members)            25    31         56
8      __    The Rolling Stones (5 members)    44    11         55
9      14    Oprah/35                          30    25         55
10     13    George Michael/26                 11    36         47


"PINK FLOYD
Rock Group: $56 million

Over the last two years this durable, two-decade-old but still flashy band
has grossed $56 million from touring and record sales, with hypnotic albums
like Dark Side of the Moon. Band members have come and gone, but masterful
lead guitarist David Gilmour has held the act together, crafting the often
ominous, surrealistic songs that are the themes for their imposing stage
shows. Clearly, the refurbished Floyd has thrived under Gilmour's lead. Its
1988-89 North American and European tour grossed an estimated $135 million,
and was highlighted by a floating concert extravaganza in Venice, which was
televised in 20 countries."

[The "three members" considered in PF in the Forbes list were Gilmour, 
Mason and Wright.]


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13.  "Didn't They Get In A Crash And Nearly Mangle Themselves To Death?"

One of Nick Mason's favorite pastimes is auto racing.  He, David Gilmour,
and Steve O'Rourke (their manager) participated in a road race in
Mexico called "La Carrera Panamericana" in late 1991.  They later released
a TV-movie of the car race, directed by Gilmour, with a little "new" Pink
Floyd music for backing (including "One Slip").

During the race, there was an accident.  The movie didn't provide in-depth
coverage of the accident, just about the same coverage as other crashes
received.  Here is a transcription of the voice-over regarding Dave & Steve's
crash (courtesy of Martin Pitwood):

     "They went into a corner too fast.  Either through misreading the pace
     notes or whatever and, er, basically took off over the edge of a cliff
     and landed, I think upside-down, on a small road below.  The general
     feeling seems to be that they are incredibly lucky to have got away
     with it so lightly.  Dave is fine, maybe a few cuts and bruises, and
     Steve - broken leg."  Then shots of the car being towed away.


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14.  "What is said at the very beginning/end of Radio KAOS?"

This is taken from Q&A in TAP (#53):

   According to "Psycho Pink" Eric Wayne Morrison (Colorado
   Springs), it's "...back to the beginnig" and "That's...".

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15.  "What do the Arabic words in "Late Home Tonight" mean?"

[translation courtesy of Fady Alajaji:]

  Some of the phrases were really hard to grasp because they were 
  being spoken very quickly in the background of the high tempo 
  beating drums.

  Anyway I tried my best and here is the translation (although not very 
  accurate) of what I could grasp:

  1) At the end of the song, while Roger is singing the following:	

	"And in Tripoli, another ordinary wife
	[....] in the street below"

  a woman is shouting in the background  in egyptian arabic.
  Apparently she is complaining to her husband and blaming him
  for her sufferings. Her words run as follows:
                  
        ".... And then what !!!! why don't you ever help me ?
        you all the time leave me alone at home and go join your
        fat friends in your endless useless discussions.... 
        I work for you and your family from dawn to dusk, and 
        you don't give a damn ! 
        I badly need to rest, I just wish the devil's angel will
         soon come and take me with him......"

  2) Then the beating drums start, and here everything is very chaotic.
  There are different voices in the background. I was able to distinguish 
  a TV (or radio) commentator talking (but I can't get what he's
  saying) and at the same time there is a crowd shouting slogans
  in arabic. I could not grasp all their words. This what I could get:

        "..... is Great;.......is Great; God is great........
        Death, Death , Death to the ..... (imperialists ?)..."

  I am not sure if the last word is "imperialists". Anyway you get 
  the meaning. I think it's kind of a demonstration of fundamentalist
  muslims. However I 'm not really sure.

  3) At the end of the beating drums, right before the missile explosion,
  the voice of the TV commentator becomes more clear, and he says the 
  following:

        ".....his days are rarely spent at home....as for her, she stays
        alone, she stays alone at home..... while all the men are 
        out gathered at the squarre, she's left to loneliness 
        and (oblivion ?)................BBBBBOOOOOOOOUUUUMMMMMMM"

  That's it folks. I want to point out that this translation is not 
  completely accurate, and it's not completely word by word.
  Arabic cannot be translated word by word into English because it 
  won't make any sense. However, overall I think the translation 
  is 90% accurate.

  By the way I think Roger got these arabic phrases from an egyptian
  movie and mixed them into his song. I am certain the arabic is 
  egyptian arabic and not lybian arabic as it was meant to be ;
  since this song is supposed to be about the bombing of the Lybian 
  capital, Tripoli. 


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16.  "Who or what is/was Fassbinder?"

"Fixed on the front of her Fassbinder face was the kind of a smile
 that only a rather dull child could have drawn while attempting a
 graveyard in the moonlight."

Fassbinder is a German playwright/filmmaker.  He's been called "artsy,"
"grim," and "simplified."  The line could refer to the kind of leading
lady that he'd use in a movie, or perhaps it means a "grim/mournful" 

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17.  "What's all this about poppies?"

[from Steve South:]

During the First World War, the fields of Flanders were dug over. Not by
farmers, but by trench digging, shell and mortar fire, etc. Now it is a
curious thing, but the seeds of the red poppies found in Europe can lay in
the ground for years without germinating, and then grow after the ground
has been disturbed. Consequently, sometime after the battles, the sites of
devastation were transformed into a blaze of colour. The poppy has become
a symbol of that time. Every November, when Americans celebrate Memorial Day,
the British have Rememberance Day. Poppy wreaths are laid at the memorial to
the Unknown Soldier etc. etc. A national charity collects money for vetarans
by selling artificial poppies -- wearing a poppy shows that you remember and
that you gave.

[also...]

   It does have something to do with morphine.  Poppies are also a symbol
of relief from life's pain, and have been since long before WWI.

[And, more, from Helen Bransfield:]

	IN FLANDERS FIELDS  by John McCrae

	In Flanders fields the poppies blow
	Between the crosses, row on row,
	  That mark our place: and in the sky
	  The larks, still bravely singing, fly
	Scarce heard amid the guns below.

	We are the Dead.  Short days ago
	We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
	Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
	In Flanders fields.

	Take up our quarrel with the foe:
	To you from failing hands we throw
	  The torch; be yours to hold it high.
	  If ye break faith with us who die
	WE SHALL NOT SLEEP, THOUGH POPPIES GROW
	  IN FLANDERS FIELDS.

Also in the U.S.A. paper poppies are sold at Memorial Day (in May) by a group
called Veterans of Foreign Wars.  (On November 11 we celebrate Veterans Day
which was formerly Armistice Day, the anniversary of the armistice ending WWI.

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18.  "Who were Alf Razzell and Bill Hubbard?" 

The voices in ATD of somebody trying to rescue a comrade are those of Alf 
Razzell, a WWI veteran.  Here's a (small) bit of background to his story 
(appparently from the same TV special from which Waters took the sound bites):

  Alf Razzell had the job af collecting the dead soldier's pocket-books,
  whatever they are, (some kind of ID thing I expect) and usually the
  corpse had to be rolled over to get it out of the top pocket.  You
  would then see why the man had died.  There were guys with empty brain
  cavities, faces blown off, limbs blown off and half the time he was
  walking through intestines of dead men.

  The Germans picked up Alf and took him to the trenches where he found
  Bill. The Germans would not help at all.  Bill had a large hole in his
  back exposing his intestines and it was dirty with oil, chalk and all
  kind of shit from the trenches.  The Germans wanted Alf to take him back
  and to be quick about it but due to the injuries Bill couldn't stand it
  and with the Germans getting impatient and abusive, he decided that he
  would have to leave him behind.  Bummer.
 
  Its not all that gory.  Alf looks in pretty good condition for a 90 odd
  year old.  He reckons war is completely unnecessary.  At the end of any
  war, everyone sits around a table and comes to some agreement.  Why don't
  they do that before the war instead?


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19.  "What do the colored stripes on the TFC cover represent?"

[for finally tracking down the solution to this vexing problem, we are
forever in the debt of Scott Plumer:]


First off, they're all WWII service medals

Green w/ black & red stripes: Defence Medal: for 3 years service

Gold w/ black, red and blue stripes: Africa Star: service in North African
                                                  campaign
Blue w/ red stripe: 1939/45 Star: At least 6 months service between 1939 and
                                  1945
Purple & white: Distinguished Flying Cross: "For acts of courage, valour or
                                             devotion to duty while flying.."
                                             For officers

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20.  "What's the backwards message in 'Perfect Sense' say?"

The story goes like this:  Waters had asked Stanley Kubrick if he could use the
"breathing sounds" from his "2001: A Space Odyssey" film on the album.  Mr.
Kubrick refused.  So Waters dubbed in his own breathing effects, and recorded a
nasty message for Kubrick's benefit.  Heaven only knows if he's heard it, or
more importantly, if he cares.

[I used to know what it said, (I even went as far as sampling it to 
try and get better sound out of it) but I've misplaced what I discovered.
Figures.  I'm sure this will get corrected sometime... -djs]





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21.  "What is Richard Wright's current status with the band?"

As stated before, Richard Wright was essentially fired from Pink Floyd just
before the Wall tours.  He did not appear on TFC.  He did, however, appear as a
"session" musician on AMLOR, and also participated in the DSOT tour.  This was
seen by fans as a promising indication that he's about to be fully re-instated
in the band.

With the new album, it appears that he's finally back in the band:

  [from MTV News]
  Wright: On this one I have been involved right from the begining.
          Writing and singing, and it's a compleatly different
          situation this time, and I'm not on a wage (big smile).
          I'm in partnership with them, and very happy about that.
          We are actually three of us making a Pink Floyd album.


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