The cure for cults that want to deny others
their freedom of speech is more freedom of speech
-- Fredric Rice


Creationist Cults

"Invincible ignorance cannot be enlightened." --- Patrick O'Brian, paraphrased.

Please read this disclaimer.

The ICR's "scientists"
hold a meeting
This site is not an attempt to enlighten Creationists to the fact that their occult beliefs are wrong--- their willful ignorance is truely invincible since it is predicated upon intense occult indoctrination: the conclusive evidence that Creationism is a lie will never penetrate that deliberate, all-powerful ignorance. Rather, this site is for people who wish to learn about the "scientific[sic] Creationism" religion in general, and the ICR cult's "Back to Genesis" scam in particular.

To those who claim this site is "anti- Christianity" and "anti- Christian," I will point out to you that, in actual fact, this site is anti- ignorance. When you assert that this site is "anti- Christianity" and "anti- Christian," you are equating Christianity and Christians with ignorance: therefore YOU are the one being anti- Christianity and anti- Christian. If you honor and respect truth and scientific knowledge, you will have little or no objections to this site. You may wish to compare a statement from a Christian Evolutionist to another statement by a Creationist. We can start with a list of things Creationists hate.

The Kansas Board of Education has committed an extreme evil against the students of public education by striving hard to keep their students stupid and ignorant--- the exact opposite of what a Board of Education is supposed to do!

To learn about evolution and evolutionary theory, you may look here.

Do you "believe" in evolution? or do you believe that evolution is false? Maybe you would like to take a quiz on evolutionary theory and Creationism.

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The ICR's

When the ICR cult ("ICR" stands for "Institute for Creation Research," though the more exact phrase is actually "I Can't Reason") was not selling their occult materials ("Buy our books! BUY our books! BUY our books! BUY OUR BOOKS!"), selling their gods ("Every one has faith! Every one has an idol!"), or selling their "tours" ("You really must go with us to the Grand Canyon!"), the reverends Morris and Phillips spent the rest of the time lying to their audience of about 1,200 people.

Yes, I said "lying." It is my opinion that it is fundamentally impossible for them to not be aware of the fact that they were speaking falsehoods. It is my opinion (and that of many, many others) that the reverends cannot possibly be unaware of the fact that their claims have been competently, irrefutably demonstrated false. And yet the reverends still spewed their falsehoods: in anyone's book, this means they told lies, in an attempt to deceive deliberately. It is not a matter of "differing opinions" between reverends Morris and Phillips and the scientific community: if that were true, the reverends would be publishing their "research" in scientific journals under peer-review. Rather, the reverends have taken an oath to ignore the truth when it contradicts their paper idol.

Henry Morris
Creationism is theological
and political, not scientific.

[Someone should warn Rev John Morris and Rev Doug Phillips about lying for the Lord God. Here is what God has to say about lying for Him in His name. The fact is that Creationists made their god in their own image.]

Just what is it that the ICR cult believes, and what their "Back to Genesis" circus asserts? The ICR cult believes that Utnapishtim's Great Flood (as recounted in the Gilgamesh Epic, which is anterior to the Bible's Genesis myths) is responsible for all of the fossil record and geological structures found upon Terra. They believe this (or at least they claim to believe it) regardless of the fact that it has been conclusively demonstrated false. How one can believe that which is known to be false is explored in the excellent book The Mind of the Bible Believer by Edmund D. Cohen (1988, Prometheus Books, ISBN 0-87975-495-8). It is not known why the ICR cult prefers the newer myth to the older one.

Anyhow, back to "Back to Genesis" (which should actually be titled "Back to Epic of Gilgamesh"). Is it a scam, or are the reverends at the ICR merely the quintessence, the epitome of incompetence? Is it really possible to not know when one's every word is a lie? That seems highly unlikely to me (and a great many others who know of the ICR cult's activities). Creationism is big business (that is, BIG BU$INE$$). It sells hundreds of thousands of books and tapes; it makes ignorant believers funnel money into cults that are subverting science education in the nation; and it is tax-exempt. The cult performs pseudo-science and calls their results "Creation 'Science.'" The Reverend Kent Hovind is a good example of a Creationist who is clueless about what he pretends to speak authoritatively upon.

"10,000 drowned by Hurricane Mitch! Refutes the Creationist argument that human fossils are not found in the lower strata because humans were able to escape the flood and flee to higher ground! BTW, central America is mountainous; lots of higher ground to flee to." --- Frank Steiger

The ICR cult still distributes propaganda that is known to be false. Such as a false argument about the laws of thermodynamics which Gish claims makes evolution impossible (it does not); a false claim about ultraviolet light falling upon primordial Earth preventing the formation of life (biopoesis); a false assertion that the "laws of probability" demonstrate biopoesis is impossible (it does not); a claim that the fossil record refutes evolution and evolutionary theory (it does not); plus false arguments about "argument from design"; plus a lie about "tautology" concerning the geocolumn; and a lie about helium content in the Earth's atmosphere; and the false claim that Bible-believing Christians are somehow morally and ethically superior to non-theists; and the lie that there are no transitional fossils. The cult ignores the fact that their false claims have been demonstrated false, and discussed in so many books that it is fundamentally impossible for Gish, Morris, Hovind, et al, to not know they are distributing falsehoods.

John Morris, telling lies. (You can tell because his lips are moving.)

If you have a barf bag handy, and RealAudio® installed on your computer, you may hear some absurdities from the ICR cult. The following RealAudio® files are kindly allowed by Rev John Morris to be "copied freely as long as they are not sold." The best way to hear them is to first download them to your computer, and then played via the RealAudio® Player.

  • Looks Staged Reverend Morris, speaking about Prof. Richard Dawkins.

  • [Others to follow later.]

As bizarre and as silly as it seems to rational people, the ICR cult believes that acknowledging evolution, and teaching evolutionary theory, is somehow the cause for every social ill that have ever plagued humanity. (Never mind the fact that evolutionary theory has not been taught in public junior-high and high schools in the past 30 years.) They have, of course, no evidence to support these silly occult-based claims, but since many of these claims render themselves open for scrutiny, we can list the basics here. Here is what the ICR cult claims to be "factual:"

Created in god's image Fish to man
God's word Man's opinion
Biblical family Global village
Sanctity of life Abortion / euthanasia
World-wide flood Millions of years
All men created equal Racial supremacy
One man / one woman Homosexuality / immorality

As you can see, the cult's grasp on reality is extremely tenuous, at best. What the cult attributes to evolutionary science is not what any sane human being would. Evolution, and evolutionary theory, does not address "man's opinions," nor do they say anything about a "global village," nor anything about "abortion and euthanasia," nor anything about "racial supremacy," nor anything about "homosexuality and immorality." Indeed, one is left to wonder in amazement just why the ICR cult would pretend to make authoritative pronouncements upon a subject they conclusively demonstrate they have no understanding and knowledge of. It's utterly amazing.

Here is another list that the cult believes is a comparison between their occult beliefs and what they falsely believe to be the evolutionary sciences:

Structure of Natural Law Invariable Constantly changing
Galactic Universe Galaxies constant Galaxies changing
Structure of Stars Stars unchanging Stars changing into other types
Other Heavenly Bodies Breaking down Building up
Types of Rock Formations Similar in all Ages Different in different Ages
Appearance of Life Life only from life Life evolving from non-life
Array of Organisms Distinct Kinds of Organisms Continuum of Organisms
Appearance of Kinds of Life No New Kinds Appearing New Kinds Appearing
Mutations in Organisms Harmful Beneficial
Natural Selection Conservative Process Creative Process
Age of Earth Probably Young Extremely Old
Fossil Record Systematic Gaps Innumerable Transitions
Appearance of Man No Ape-Human intermediates Ape-Human intermediates
Nature of Man
[and Woman]
Qualitatively Distinct from Animals Quantitatively Superior to Animals
Origin of Civilization Contemporaneous with Man Slow and Gradual
©1974 Henry Morris, The Troubled Waters of Evolution, pg 12

Note that the cult obviously does not have a clue about what evolution is and what evolutionary theory states. The cult appears to somehow believe that astrophysics, geophysics, and anthropology have something to do with evolution. One could make a case for Gish, Morris, Phillips, et al, working hard to make Christians appear irrational, insane, and foolish, when they make claims like this.

ICR Creationist, fleecing the flock.

So, why is the ICR cult so full of liars and fools? What causes grown men to run off and look for an imaginary boat on a mid-eastern mountain, built by the half-god hero Uta-Napishtim (later renamed "Noah"), as if the myth were true? The answer to that is both simple and complex.

The simple answer is that the cultists from the ICR cult have vowed to their gods that they will believe their false occult beliefs (the Bible) despite the evidence massed against their false beliefs. This they call "faith," and no amount of reasoning will cure their beliefs. They consider "faith" to be a positive attribute: their occult paraphernalia praises foolishness. They know that since Genesis is demonstrated to be false, the rest of their paper idol is suspect.

The long answer is much more complex. How someone can believe that which is blatantly false; that is observed to be false; that cannot and is not possible.... this question has been addressed by many scholars and psychiatrists / psychologists. The book The Mind of the Bible Believer by Edmund D. Cohen is an excellent source on how Rev Gish, Rev Morris, etc., can believe what is known to be false.

Here is a breath of fresh air concerning education about the evolutionary sciences.

The ICR cult holds a
"science" class.

The good news is that leading professional scientists are increasingly rejecting occult beliefs. The bad news is, consequently, the ICR cult has attempted to by-pass how science is done by appealing to the ignorant and the superstitious for their support. This support includes violating the U.S. Constitution and inflicting the ICR's occult beliefs onto public school students in the name of "science." The fact that the ICR cult believes it is free to lie, cheat, and deceive to meet its agenda is excellent motive for opposing their subversive, anti-American, occult-motivated activities. "Teaching" Creationism to students is an act equal to child molestation; it harms society because it wounds children, making them unfit to compete in the domestic job market, and making American workers unfit to compete in the global economy. "Teaching" Creationism in public schools means that American students would be deliberately crippled mentally, intellectually, and emotionally.

A question for you. Taken from a source, but still very relevant.

"I'm a scientist. In science, all knowledge is tentative. Everything is a theory until a better idea comes along. Then we use the better idea. So by definition we're skeptics and we agree with the creationists when they say the theory of evolution will be history when someone comes up with something better. But I have a question for those who believe in creation. If something better came along, would you agree that creationism is wrong? In other words, are you willing, at least in theory, to change your beliefs?" --- (The Central Mechanism, by Jim Cowan)

A simple "Yes" or "No" will do.

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"You can lie about ICR all you want." -- Jason Daniel Henderson

"Thank you for your permission however there's never any need to. Creationist propaganda is already self-debunking." -- Fredric L. Rice


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